Jesus’ Teaching on Prayer

Jesus’ Teaching on Prayer

Filmed on the shores of the Dead Sea during an initiatory journey in Israel in 2011, Daniel Meurois talks about prayer, as taught by Master Jesus.
Jesus taught us a few prayers that we would say together. He said that it was good to relate to those prayers, because of their connection to what we call today an egregore. We did not use the word egregore at the time, but an Aramaic word with approximately the same meaning. In fact it was not one word but rather a group of words, an expression which meant the same thing as « egregore ».

He taught us how to connect to the global energy Source. This was for Him very important. But what He considered most important was that we would be able -or would learn- to improvise our own prayers according to the different moments of our life. That is, that we would come to unlock something at the level of our heart, not at the level of our mind but at the level of our heart, in order to release any tension, any fear, also any desire within us.

For Him, as soon as we had succeeded in establishing an inner contact with the Father as He called Him, or possibly the Mother in some cases, we were in a state of prayer. There was no need for fine words or well-constructed sentences. He only wanted us to open the doors of our heart, but not simply in a one-way manner: that is, He taught us that prayer should not only be a request, but also an offering. You know, most of the time when we pray, we are a bit craving… « God, please help me with this, please help me with that ». In His eyes, a prayer had to be an exchange: « My God, please give me… and allow me to give also. And I thank You for this, I thank You for that ».

Our way of being in those moments of prayer had to resemble the movement of life in general as a constant flow of exchange: taking and giving, just like the tidal movement of rising and lowering. Thus according to His teachings, this was really the direction that He most wished we would take. When we were praying, we would very often start with a prayer that we would say together. Then He would let us continue with a prayer coming from our heart, a very simple one. It did not necessarily have to last for hours. For Him, long meditations or prayers did not necessarily make a lot of sense, except when one was taking vows to become a hermit for instance or retreating in the desert… that was something else.

But when He was talking to people like us confronted with everyday life, His advice was to spend relatively short, well-centered and focused moments in prayer and meditation rather than thinking «oh… just three minutes long, I should continue, this is not enough», which to Him was not meaningful.

Indeed if a prayer or meditation tended to last for too long and we were no longer centered enough in our interiorization, our mind would then go in every direction and the prayer would lose intensity. He thus preferred something short and focused instead of something which would give one the impression of being a great meditator or man of prayer, but would eventually serve only as a means for our conscience to rapidly scatter. It is in that sense that He taught us.

For another approach to Christ and spirituality

For another approach to Christ and spirituality

This video offers an open and innovative approach to Christ and spirituality, that is much needed today in the West. An exceptional encounter between Daniel Meurois, writer and mystic, and Eric Dudoit, PhD in Psychology and Psychopathology, responsible for the Psycho-Oncology Unit at the University Hospital La Timone in Marseille.
For another approach to Christ and spirituality
Daniel Meurois: If I feel like talking about Christ, it is because I find that there is a big confusion in the West about the meaning of Christ. It appears that people no longer believe in anything and that they have lost the sense of sacredness. When I see on the one hand the persons who are meant to convey sacredness and spirituality, and on the other hand the way most people live, I tell myself that if I did not have this particular approach and motivation, I would inevitably be just like those people who do not care about sacred and spiritual matters.

Because those who are meant to convey the values of sacredness in society and who belong (or say they belong) to everything that is supposed to represent religion in its primary sense – that is, what connects beings to themselves and the Divine – somehow made us weary of the “sacred” and “religious” values in their purest sense because… there has been one lie after another. This is so obvious now, not only because of the behavior of a certain number of priests or others, this being part of history even if it is painful, but also because that deceit has been lasting for thousands of years and we can no longer accept a dogma which has been telling us stories and distracting us for so long from the real teachings of Christ. I tell myself that it is normal that Christian religion be currently strained because of so much deceit.

One can lie to ignorant communities, but the less ignorant those communities become, that is the more capacities they have of reflecting and distantiating, as well as possibilities of finding information, the less one can behave in such a way. It is normal that today’s Christians -or Westerners in general, since we are part of a Judeo-Christian based civilization- can no longer accept passively the things that they accepted in the past. The first reaction is one of rejection and I understand the people rejecting that.

We are sometimes told that if religion or the sense of sacredness have taken a step back in the twentieth century, it is because of science bringing to light a certain number of things and making people see the world differently. There’s some truth to that, but I believe there’s clearly another reason, being the religion’s incapacity of touching hearts and souls because of a now too obvious accumulation of deceits. I believe that the people in charge of conveying the sense of sacredness haven’t at all been able to be true and address human evolution and change of awareness, particularly in our Western countries.

Eric Dudoit : Yes, they have been totally baffled. You were reminding us of the acceptance of the word « religion » as « connected »…

Daniel Meurois: Yes…

Eric Dudoit : There is a much older acceptance which is « relegere », meaning « to be concerned for…» and I think that our world is no longer « concerned for… »

Daniel Meurois: Exactly…

Eric Dudoit : What was conveying faith and not belief – because a fundamental difference can be made between the two – was mysticism, in the noble sense of the term : true introspection. Before there was no introspection. People were living in a calibrated society where there were laws and beliefs. Once that system got undermined – which to me was not a bad thing – people found themselves in a century where there was nothing left, that is, the baby had been thrown out with the bathwater.

Talking to our contemporaries, they prefer Buddha to Jesus. This always puzzled me because, when you consider the honourable Buddhist traditions, all of the East which is totally honourable, well it is also a religion !

Daniel Meurois: Absolutely, whatever Buddhists may say eventually.

Eric Dudoit : Whatever they may say…

Daniel Meurois: They say that it is more of a philosophy but, watching them in their rituals, you can also see it as a religion.

Eric Dudoit : It is as if it was difficult for man to have the desire and trust to move forward. Something has been broken there and I think that at some point, even if psychoanalysis and psychotherapy are neither the sacredness nor the cornerstone of things, they have at least shown that there is a form of religiosity which is pathological in the full sense of the term. To believe in a God in order to have… to believe in a God in order not to be guilty… Freud was right in the sense that this is « child spirituality ». Now we have to grow, for we are still adolescents.

Daniel Meurois: I agree with you. Many people have functioned like that for millenia and even prior to Christianity, but let us talk about Christianity only. We obeyed a religion, thus dogmas, what had to be done and not to be done. Not out of love for Love, not out of love for Sacredness, not in connection with the divine Presence but « for fear of… » and because « we had to », meaning that we were into belief, not into faith. Faith is something to be experienced from within, it is a connection with a Presence that is there.

When someone tells me « I believe » or « I do not believe » – I often said it in my conferences – it does not mean anything to me. What makes you believe ? Is it coming from what your parents told you to believe, or from what society is telling you to believe or not to believe…? It doesn’t mean anything and it is quite weak if it is not based on personal experience. Faith is not a belief, it is something that grows from an experience that has been integrated or that is in the process of being integrated and is developing.

That’s why I always make the distinction – and very few people understand this, no matter how often you repeat it – between religiosity and spirituality.

Very often for the layman, religiosity is the fact of connecting to a dogma, then adhering to a belief with rituals, with what we should do or should not do… Then if you do it well, one day you may have the chance of going to Heaven. That is the belief and religiosity, in which there’s someone that knows… it is the priest, the bishop, the pope and everybody has to follow. You are not asked to experience something, but to be obedient. Of course this may sound like a caricature, but it is a bit like that.

Eric Dudoit : When we delegate the power to kill to the army or the police, we delegate our sacredness… The Protestants themselves had said some time ago that if a priest was sacred… then something got lost somewhere. The priest must have a priestly role, but he cannot be an intermediary between the Divinity and us.

I think that in the West we make things so complicated that they appear to be out of reach. We feel we cannot have any direct relationship with Christ, because History has shown us that we cannot. We have to go through the priest, the church or other, when in fact we could very well have that experience of meeting Him. When I say « meeting Him », I mean of course a concept taking shape in the imagination first, then evolving towards a creation inside us that is going to manifest progressively over time. Something is really going to meet us and stir us up but.. I don’t think we are ready to be overwhelmed yet. As long as we are being distracted, we will not want to be overwhelmed, because the mystical experience…

Daniel Meurois: …will take us on a shaky path.

Eric Dudoit : A path that can really blow our minds…

Daniel Meurois: Exactly. We need to accept to reconsider everything, to question ourselves, and by questioning ourselves to question also our beliefs, the foundations of what is touching us. Why do I believe or why do I not believe ? Before all, what makes me hold or not hold certain values ? Is it on the basis of personal experience ? Most of the time, it isn’t. That’s where the big difference lies. Going back to the notion of spirituality raised before, to be spiritual is not necessarily about accepting a particular faith or religion, but about experiencing the sense of Sacredness, that means perceiving the presence of the Divine within, maybe first through an imaginative effort, which is not pejorative but involves the capacity of translating something intangible – intangible, but nevertheless existent. It is the ability to incarnate a light, there somewhere.

Eric Dudoit : Yes, because for something to speak to us, we must leave one door open, the possibility must therefore exist in our inner self. That people say it cannot exist, sounds like an intox to me. The only thing that can exist in their eyes would be what our machines are able to detect, what we discover, etc… My clinical experience as a psychologist or the experience of many leading scientists is not that one. It is precisely because there is a window opening inside people that something can happen, otherwise there would be no discovery, even if at first imaginary, false, etc… since our assumptions can only prove what we have imagined anyway. This is what Schrödinger, or quantum physics namely, are telling us. What seems important to me is to re-open that thing within us, because otherwise we are already dead.

Daniel Meurois: That’s experimentation. But there needs to be at some point some kind of discontent about what is being experienced in our world. I am absolutely convinced that if there is a current denial of things related to religion in the West, it is in order to create a gap in ourself, some kind of abyss, the feeling that at some stage we have reached the bottom of deep water and can no longer breathe. It is a call from within because somehow we have drowned in the absence of Sacredness.

Eric Dudoit : Yes, it’s as if we were all collectively experiencing the dark night of Saint John of the Cross.

Daniel Meurois: Indeed and in that sense it is a blessing. Our current world needs to understand that and not mix everything and, as you said earlier, throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Eric Dudoit : Yes, because what is religiosity ? It is a cristallization of spirituality at a given moment in a culture. Such cristallization can distort very rapidly the words of the person who pronounced them, not out of malice or desire to hide things, but simply because human speech is not engraved on a videotape recorder.

Daniel Meurois: It is exactly that…

Eric Dudoit : Jacques Lacan said something marvellous, « The Word is what causes devastation in us ». We psychologists consider that we are paid to think that the word is what heals us. There’s a gap there because before being healed, it can in fact devastate us and be really upsetting. I have the feeling that we (myself included) are sometimes a bit reluctant to be ravaged. We think « no, better wait… », and even in modern philosophies…

Daniel Meurois: A craving for something different…

Eric Dudoit : In modern philosophies, as Ferguson was saying, in the New Age where it could have been a real call, we notice that we are going back to some sort of routine where people say things and we believe them without really checking : « Well, he told me that… »

Daniel Meurois: We need to ask to experiment. I much appreciate a sentence from the sacred book of James, I appreciate a lot the Gnostic writings, although I do not agree with everything because there has also been a lot of human interventions… But there is a nice sentence, which attributes these words to Christ : « Do not think that you will enter the Kingdom of Heaven upon My request, but only once you are filled with God». God is a concept of light, of love, a Presence. That means that it is not the adhesion to the teachings of a spiritual Master, whether Christ or Buddha (it comes to the same, whatever the Tradition), it is not the fact of abiding in a great Being and saying that He will make you enter that space of truth and light (Easterners would talk about Advaita), but it is the fact that YOU have been invited into that space there within you. « To be filled with God » is to be filled with an ineffable peace with which we have connected but which is permanently there around us. It is not a place, it is not someone who is going to welcome us by opening the doors of Paradise for us, it is a state of being. WE are going to develop something in us which is going to take us out of illusion, of deceit, of laziness, out of our refusal to consider the excuses and habits in which we have been caught up for so long.

Eric Dudoit: I believe you said the key-word, Advaita.

Daniel Meurois: It is Advaïta, it is the sense of Unity.

Eric Dudoit: It is important to understand that it has to be born within us. There is no inside, no outside. There is not a universe outside of me that I can address to explain the difficulty of what I am experiencing and another universe inside of me where I can find protection. It is all the same universe, it is really a fact.

Daniel Meurois: And we need to make an effort to access it. The difficulty of this kind of reflection is that it is first a production of the intellect : we try to get used to or to dig into new concepts. The difficulty is not to fall – but we all do at a given moment – in the shrivelling side of those metaphysical concepts. Many people remain at that stage for a long, long time and they have the impression of touching spirituality and the Spirit and the divine Presence.

Eric Dudoit: Because they enjoy it…

Daniel Meurois: Indeed, because the human mind is enjoyment.

Eric Dudoit: I spent my life enjoying it. You study theology, you study psychology and suddenly you understand it is like an intellectual orgasm. I was gonna say that it is a bit like a gland which nourishes and nourishes, and after some time you are none the wiser. It is a time of great depression for the intellectuals. But in that great depression, some would even deny it saying « no, I am not in depression. What I have learned is true, full stop », while knowing that something is missing…

Something I learned in psychopatho that was really important, is that no science – whatever it is – can be anything else than a religion if it intends to fix the whole of humanity. What we see nowadays – of course, there is a science with great scientists with whom we can talk,etc – but at a global level, when we see ads saying « scientifically proven, this makes your teeth white », we are no longer in science but in something else. We can see that something is happening in our century where science is becoming a dogma and a religion.

But that pseudo-science, built on artifice, on statistics, etc…, does not reflect the real science where researchers say « I don’t know, I am facing phenomena which I do not understand. I can clarify them somehow, but it does not solve the problem. »

That is why I like everything that exists about light. You can observe it in a way, then it becomes waves and particles in another way. In mysticism or spirituality, it is the same, meaning that very often, before being angry at someone who does not speak the same language, ask yourself where he is watching. I think we would all agree on that. It is not because you are able to invite Christ within you that you are a « priest’s acolyte ».

Daniel Meurois: This is where things really have to be rectified in order to understand that Christ is not the property of the Christian religion, but a universal Energy and circulating life-force. Everywhere… Christ can be found in a mosk, he can be found in a temple in India, at the very end of Amazonia or just anywhere…

I remember that I had created a small scandal in one of my very first conferences after the publication of « From Essene Memory », because I had the misfortune – or good fortune – of saying that Jesus, Jeshua, was not a Christian… going back to the beginning of the 1980s.

People were looking at me like that… and two or three of them left the conference room.

Jesus was not a Christian, of course he wasn’t. Jesus…, the Christ are not connected to Christianism. It is us humans, through some individuals like Saul of Tarsus (Paul), then through the first Fathers of the Church, who have invented a religion. No doubt with the best intentions of the world. But Christ is a free-flowing energy. I would say this is the result – and there again I might cause some grinding of teeth – of the action of the Holy Spirit through the Cosmos. I really see it as a Force proceeding directly from the Holy Spirit, which of course proceeds of that Force called God which is incommensurable, which is not someone but an energy field that has been feeding on life since… impossible to say when since it is so unconceivable for humans.

It is that Force which at a given moment is going to flow through beings that are called Avatars, that is to say extremely realised beings, and which makes them expand and radiate in order to stimulate at some point the growth of human consciousness within a tradition or on a continent or the other. I see as many Christs, as authentic spiritual traditions. This may schock a Buddhist or a Muslim, because we always tend to seek ownership…

Eric Dudoit: Except a genuine mystic.

Daniel Meurois: Except a genuine mystic. Genuine mystics of all traditions can only agree. My opinion is that we can say ‘Christ’, but we could also say ‘Buddha’ with a capital B. It is the same energy, maybe polarised differently in function of the sensitivity of the communities, in function of their needs also at the level of their collective consciousness.

But it is the same Force and It has no face. A being like Jesus incarnated It, absorbed It and restransmitted It at some point. Before, there was also Krishna in India… Hindus had understood very well the notion of Avatar, that is, a Being who comes at a given moment in history in a nation or another, then becomes the catalyst of that energy that belongs to no one and is the direct emanation of the Unknowable, of the Divine.

Eric Dudoit: But in order to give birth to the West, people had to think differently…

Daniel Meurois: People had to think differently…

Eric Dudoit: Just consider the fathers of the Church, the whole patristics with Nestorius, Pelagius, Arius that gave birth to arianism, etc… and all the things that have been built around it, even the Holy Trinity, which is an invention of Tertullian.

Daniel Meurois: which is questionable… the Trinity is something practical, but it is not obligatory in order to follow a spiritual path.

Eric Dudoit: I would even say that it is not necessarily obligatory. Meister Eckhart is right when he tells us that there is ultimately a pedagogical value to it, so let us go for the pedagogy of Trinity… We know that it is Tertullian who brought the concept of Trinity in the second century. He was a lawyer, a rhetorician… Much as we go through the Bible, there is no word saying Trinity in the Bible.

Daniel Meurois: It is exactly that, it is something practical. I greatly respect it, but one should not believe that it is the necessary road to take. I realized this a few years ago… what made Jesus become « the Christ » ? It is traditionally the arrival of the Holy Spirit. And something always amazes me, which is that if you listen to the dogmas of the classical Christian church, Jesus is born fully realised, he is born as Christ in his cradle, end of. It is God in swaddling clothes, who has borrowed a human body but who is fully manifested. Nevertheless, people only really started talking about him once he had been overshadowed by the Holy Spirit in the Jordan. Thus how can Jesus Christ, who already is fully Christ, still need the Holy Spirit in the Jordan ? He is manifested… he is filled… there is a kind of inconsistency. Of course, if you ask a theologian and maybe as a theologian you could play the game and argue against all that, but let us see things simply. One can always juggle with words, but let us also be logical.

Eric Dudoit: Religion is not logical anyway, three equals one… not a good start !

Daniel Meurois: It is not logical, indeed…

Eric Dudoit: Then in the history of Christianism, there is not just one but several…, it is the Filioque controversy and the question of the double nature of Christ. Nestorius, if I remember well…

Daniel Meurois: Nestorius approached something which brings us closer to the notion of Avatar. He had very well understood in Christian terms adapted to our Western culture that there can eventually be a double nature in a being like Jesus, that is the human nature, the Avatar as realised being, without Karmic burden and with considerable dimension, overshadowed at a given moment by the divine Presence. He saw the human presence, then the divine Presence merging at some point.

Eric Dudoit: In classical Church, you are going to find this. There is the double nature of Christ, but no overshadowing.

Daniel Meurois: That’s it…

Eric Dudoit: The backbone in Nestorius was that concept of Theotokos… one should not push too far. How can one be Mother of God – while loving Mary divinely ?

Daniel Meurois: That is not the problem.

Eric Dudoit: That is not the problem, but to be the Mother of God… that was really going a step too far.

Daniel Meurois: One must really be able to juggle with words and concepts to find that God had a mother. One must be shrewd, maybe even a bit devious. All that to say what, eventually ? This is not about dealing with concepts for the sake of dealing with concepts, but about trying to find the sense of an inner spiritual approach and not just adhering to a belief…, as we were saying before. Let us try and come back to our own common sense in connection to what is needed by our heart – or our soul, if you want. Because here we are talking about need. Coming back to the image I used before, we live in a society in a state of total suffocation. So what we are simply trying to do by discussing like this and I think you will agree with me, Eric, is to try and make people understand that there is happiness in diving in all this. It is not just that the Church has it all wrong and made mistakes. We have our opinion in connection to this and so has the public, I think. There is some good in every approach. What we are mainly trying to say, is that there is indeed joy and happiness in a real open spiritual approach that corresponds to the common sense demanded by our being. I believe that we need a light in us. Even if we say « I don’t want to believe in anything, I don’t care about all this », I believe that every human being, whatever he calls That, needs a light in him and it is necessary to go back to it.

Eric Dudoit: What you are saying is strongly true. Jung, an author that I like a lot and who is very little studied in France, maybe because he is a bit too theologian, a bit too « ancient Rome » as people say, was saying that finally the role of a psychologist is to shine a light inside the soul. Having read Freud, Lacan and others… I am now coming back to the concept of soul. Not because I am in total obscurantism, but because it seems to me that the term « psyche » has lost its substance. I have nothing against Cosmopolitan or other magazines, but to consider psychology as a mere discovery of human behaviours from verbal or non-verbal clues seems very small to me in connection with real researchers. The real researchers of the soul like the psychoanalysts, the humanist psychologists, those who work in the somato-psychic recovery, using the body to talk to the soul, or the energeticians, are people who rediscover that dimension, the foundation stone necessary to understand something. If I take that dimension away, saying that psyche exists but… I don’t know what it is, I am going to be floundering in deep water. We are going to be in a monistic system, but one which is not well integrated. That does not mean that I have a dualist approach ; I am not saying that there is the body and the soul, but that they are one and the same thing.

Daniel Meurois: I agree…!

Eric Dudoit: They are one and the same thing, but there are times when one must « intellegere » … a good old term from the Middle Ages, still existing nowadays and meaning « understand instinctively ». That approach follows its own trajectory. I think that we must continue working and really dusting what the ancient mystics have said about the soul. The reason I am saying this, is that the most prominent authors in psychopathology and energetic will use that concept to introduce us to a whole new aspect of the psyche.

If I consider that there is inside me only my Self and if the self equals the soul, I am undoubtedly completely wrong. Even the great Advaita Masters, who were out of any dualistic system and into an extremely monistic one, require some precision in the psychological processes. That means that the psyche is a realm of its own, and that seems very important to me. If I really use and work in those realms, I do not even need to discuss the aberrations of certain dogmas any more.

Daniel Meurois: Indeed…

Eric Dudoit: For instance, as we said earlier, we could talk about God’s mother during 20 years. But when you are somewhat rational… it just cannot be.

Daniel Meurois: No, it cannot be and I think that this is common sense. We’re playing with words, here.

Eric Dudoit: Saying that Jesus saved us from our sins, I am probably going to cause teeth-gnashing… but never mind. What sins ? Adam’s ? Maybe… In Corinthians 1.15, « the first man, Adam, was made a living soul, the last Adam was made a life-giving spirit »… the last Adam being Jesus. I am a living soul and I wish to become a life-giving spirit. If I do not have that growth dynamic inside me and if I do not wish to have it, then I am already an object.

I think that it is in that sense that our spirituality and the whole of humanity, whether Muslims, Buddhists, Christians or others, whatever color of the rainbow they prefer, have to come together in order to discover that there is inside us the same thing as outside us.

Daniel Meurois: I agree. I said this in one of my books, at the highlight of my spiritual journey in the original sense of the word… I experienced it on the balcony of an apartment in the North of France facing a coal tip and a red light… I was there thinking that the priest of my youth used to say that God was everywhere. When we think about it, in Sunday school we integrate the truth « God is everywhere, God is everywhere » without understanding what it means. Everywhere is everywhere ! And I may also shock some people now saying that everywhere means up to the core of a cow dung… Because everywhere is everywhere. There is no half-everywhere !

And if He is everywhere, what do I do at every moment of my life ? I breathe, whether I think about it or not, I breathe, otherwise I would not live. This means that every nano-second of my life, I absorb a gas in which the Divine Presence is necessarily. If anything is constantly penetrating me, it is the Divine Presence, because the Absolute is everywhere. And when we think about that truth, we realize that we are looking for God everywhere when he is constantly there. We are like in His body, but we are so stuck onto Him in all His manifestations that of course we cannot see Him.

Since modern printing was born with specific techniques and the notion of pixels, we can now understand what a picture is. A picture is made up of a series of pixels and as far as we are concerned, it is as if we wanted to see the picture, i.e. God, while being only a small pixel. We have no hindsight and keep fragmenting everything, unaware of the fact that we are within the Deity at a certain level of its radiance. The more we become aware of the level of that radiance in which we live, most of the time unconsciously, the more we can gain altitude and rise. I am not saying that we will see the full picture one day… But we are approaching that defragmentation you were talking about previously, we are approaching Advaita, and are less and less separating from what is. We are experimenting the Deity and are no longer simply believing what we are told about what the Deity is or is not.

Humanity has to be brought towards that and that’s what I appreciated when I discovered in its time the Gnostic tradition, which I do not favour more than another tradition since it also has its loopholes and contradictions. But the interesting part in the Gnostic approach, which is anterior to the Advent of Christianity, is the strong awareness that it is by experimenting the Deity that we grow and not by adhering to some dogma or religious tradition. This is fundamental. As long as we haven’t understood this, we will be in servitude with what we should or shoud not believe in, with restrictions, with the divine Kingdom being outside of us, instead of knowing that there is an access door within us, because it is an inner space.

Eric Dudoit: I totally agree.

Daniel Meurois: And that’s where the drama is… I always talk about the West but the same problems can also be found in other places at different levels. The Western tradition does not allow us to understand this and to be instructed from childhood about the non-separateness and experimentation need. That is tragic…

Eric Dudoit: You see, that’s something which I can’t understand. In the West, there are monks, like Denis Vasse or others, who have experimented psychoanalysis and still remained with their faith. It is surprising because if psychoanalysis is not a spiritual approach, it is at least a spiritual exercise. Thus it is not a path. One is not going to reach the Deity by undertaking a psychoanalysis, but it is an exercise.

Daniel Meurois: You mean « spiritual » in its primary sense…

Eric Dudoit: Yes, indeed. By doing that experience, they can leave their little Self which is always crying (in Quebec we say « whining »…), which is never happy or does not know why it is happy… I have a nice car, a nice house, a nice swimming-pool… and one day we are going to die… and this does not make us happy. I think that what we are lacking in the West, is that we no longer want to exercise…

Daniel Meurois: Indeed.

Eric Dudoit: …And the Deity, whether you call it like that or whether you don’t call it anything, is something that comes with exercising love, not exercising without love, but exercising love. I liked the Middle Ages with that love, the Agape. You know very well the experience of Francis of Assisi, going to the extreme of love without any fear of doing wrong. At the present time, we don’t want to, there is some kind of unwillingness… I am not accusing my contemporaries, I am fine living in this century with them. But I find it a real pity because in my work, when I take care of people who are about to pass away, I see that what worries them is not the justice, but the righteousness of their life. Was my life just in the sense of righteous ? There it is sometimes creaking.

Daniel Meurois: Of course, yes.

Eric Dudoit: We could find a simple remedy to this by reconnecting with the idea that life should not be controlled, that we should live through it and not take control over it. This is typical of the Western mind to try and control everything. I think that we are now putting an end to that egotistical attitude of wanting control over things to go our way…

When I was a child, I used to pray in the toilets, until one day it stroke me: I went to see my mum and asked her whether we could pray the Divine on the toilet… she found it really weird. Can we pray the Divine at poo time ? Typical of kids’ questions.

Daniel Meurois: Exactly and this takes us back to what we were saying before.

Eric Dudoit: What my mum answered was « he will understand ». It might not have been the best of answers, but a bit later it is true that it is something we can ask ourself. Or the teenager masturbating… It may sound stupid but in my practice I get teenagers who feel very ashamed. They get very nice ideas, our teenagers, through films like « May the force be with you », « Star Wars », « Avatar », etc… They are touching something sacred.

Daniel Meurois: Something can be touched there, yes.

Eric Dudoit: And at the same time it generates an impulse inside them. Just after that, after some very nice thoughts, they start masturbating. Then they go and see a psychologist to tell him that it is not right to do so. In fact this is deeply anchored in us. They need a third party to tell them « Why would it be wrong ? It is neither wrong nor right, it is a fact. There has been an overflowing energy, you used it as you pleased. There are other ways to use it, but during adolescence it is generally used that way ». It is odd that our society does not use those things to grow all together.

Daniel Meurois: It is as if we were in collective dynamics where we are always accountable to a higher authority and, ultimately, the highest of authorities is what we call God. We have been formatted – and it is also true for Muslims – to think that God is watching and judging us. We eventually attribute Him human behaviours : « It is right, it is not right. If it is right, I will reward you. If it is not right, you will be punished and you will see that it can go very far, even up to hell ultimately ». We systematically maintain that idea and remain in the crack, the break, the cut, placing the concept of God outside the creation, watching us and punishing us. As long as we stay with those thoughts, we are unable to move on and we will never be able to do the necessary step to find who we are, our essence, our Seed Atom, our fundamental origin, the Sun of the suns which is inside us. I always talk about the Seed Atom as a stem cell in us which remembers the Divine and contains the seed for all the potential of the Divine to be revealed. It is nowhere else, it can be searched in Heaven…

Eric Dudoit: We can call it the divine sparkle…

Daniel Meurois: It is indeed the divine sparkle. I do not like it either when someone says « I am God, we are all gods » because it is the trend of this New Age. We may understand what can lead to such affirmations, but it is also a good deal of a joke and it is generally the ego patting itself on the back. I am the first to say that there is some Divine in us and that the whole potential of the Divine is in us, but it is still in a state of sleep and needs to be revealed. It is not enough to say « I am God » or « we are gods » to create the factual situation as proclaimed… It is generally the small personality that feels big in us and will state such things. Let us have the courage to work on ourselves, « to work » in quotation marks, because it is that as well. This is, I think, what many among our contemporaries who are turning their back to an inner path and to spirituality do not understand. They have the impression that to go on a spiritual path is synonym of deprivation, sorrow, lack of fun…

Why is it that so many beings on Earth have turned to a spiritual path since the beginning of times? Are they masochists ? I do not think so. The reason is that, once you have reached a certain point, there is happiness in being there. One should not think that those who meditate for hours like some great lamas or yogis are actually harming themselves. They are in fact entering a kind of ecstasy comparable to a permanent orgasm. They are not hitting eachother, they are not harming themselves, they are discovering a happiness in which there is nothing more to hope for, except of course that the path is endless and unlimited, but it gives them glorious joy. To reach that state of joy, one must show some courage, some will and determination, knowing that, in fact, what do we all want on Earth ? To be happy…

Eric Dudoit: We just need to open our eyes.

Daniel Meurois: That’s all… All we want is to be happy. What does a human being fundamentally want ? Just that. What I am personally tired of is to take side roads. I am dedicating my whole life trying and explaining to those who would hear me, that maybe we can say « that’s enough now, enough going round in circles ». Why would we not decide once and for all to find our own path in ourself ? That does not mean rejecting the great Traditions, which are useful and honorable, but revealing our inner Christ. Our inner Christ is not the historical Christ incarnated by Jeshua or maybe by Krishna or Osiris at a given moment, who have been great guides of their times. Our inner Christ is our state of sublimation and it is our heritage, towards which we are going whether we want it or not, because it is not an option.

Eric Dudoit: That’s the good thing about it, not being an option.

Daniel Meurois: It is not an option. We may say « no, I don’t want to », we all go through stages like that. There have necessarily been lives where we rejected everything, where we were ‘the worst of the worst’ and did not want to know anything. Those are stages of growth. I would like our audience to understand this. It is through all the words and all the concepts that we can transmit, analyse, etc, it is just there that we can dig, there is nowhere else to dig. And there is a real gem.

Eric Dudoit: And time does not exist…

Daniel Meurois: Time does not exist…

Eric Dudoit: I knew a lama, he made me laugh. We were driving and as lots of mosquitoes were hitting the windshield, I said « Damn bugs ! ». He replied : « That’s not good for your karma ».

Daniel Meurois: We all said it…

Eric Dudoit: I thought « Cheeky ! I could not care less about my karma ! »

It’s only from the moment I do not care about my karma, that things can be said as they are. Among a certain population which I like and in the New Age where I feel good, more or less…

Daniel Meurois: Yes… more or less… it depends…

Eric Dudoit: There is always that notion of karma, we have to pay attention to our karma. But the more we pay attention to our karma, the more we live either uptight or in a cave, or we just don’t live.

Daniel Meurois: Exactly !

Eric Dudoit: There is one thing in your books that I have really liked, it is « Louis du Désert ». Louis of the Desert is king, he is sick of it, he becomes something else, but at some point that guy is a bit anchorite, and there he realizes that there is still pride. I find that amazing.

It means that whatever attitude we choose, whether rich or poor, whether we believe in this or in that, in Muhammad or in Jesus, where does our pride find refuge ? Where does it hide to make me believe every morning that I am that ?

This morning when I got up, I asked myself « Who am I ? » and almost immediately « I am Eric Dudoit with all my degrees » and in fact… no ! This is what’s important : « in fact… no !». If I remain identified to what I am all day, it’s not gonna work. I need to get myself out of that. Some psychoanalysts, such as Wilfred Ruprecht Bion, were saying a really good thing : « If you want to be in relationship with another human being, you mustn’t have any desire nor memory ». I love that…

If I am in relationship with a human being, if I recall who I am with all my past as well as who he is with all his past, I will only find a bunch of images but I will never meet him.

This is what you were saying at the level of Christ, i.e. it is more a « kenosis » than an addition; a kenosis is an emptying of self. In fact we do not even need to work to add something, to go to school or to University. We just need to remove all the masks.

Daniel Meurois: I totally agree…, totally agree ! We have to unlearn and to get rid of the multiple layers that incarnation has been coating over billions and billions of years, maybe more since time is no longer measurable… Incarnation has laid some sediments, and it is under those sediments that our truth – which cannot be anything else than the truth of the Divine and the Sacred – is hiding. These are classical images. That is no secret to anyone but it should always be reminded again and again, because it is that simplicity which is fundamental, and we keep forgetting it.

Eric Dudoit: Yes and when we forget it, we suffer. And when we suffer, we forget it even more… it’s annoying. Suffering can be life-saving – I am gonna get another slap on the wrist, but never mind -, in the sense that it is a signal, it tells us something.

Daniel Meurois: It is a flashing light…

Eric Dudoit: Then, we shouldn’t praise it either, otherwise from signal we’re gonna make it a state of things. That signal must just tell me that there is something inside me that I am seeing in a distorted way. After, it is only about repositioning ourselves. And when I say « it is only about », it may take several years…

Daniel Meurois: or several lives…

Eric Dudoit: But that’s what needs to be tackled. I liked a book – a bit strange – that you wrote, it is called « Vu d’en-Haut » (« Seen from Above »). I say « a bit strange » because when you are out of that system, you think that someone is talking to that guy in his head…, not a good start ! You think that he must be schyzophrenic for the least ! Nevertheless I continued reading, thinking « he is schyzo… ok he is schyzo, no big deal… » and then you talk with…

Daniel Meurois: a Presence… Let us call it that way.

Eric Dudoit: A presence tells you something which has been astounding me for such a long time : « Well I come from the Stars ». When I read that book I thought that was the top, we had got there, this was Star-Wars and I loved that Presence teasing you all the same, like any human being, and I love when it says at the beginning of the book : « God ? What is God ? » It titillates us further by saying « Ok God, ok. But we don’t use God any more ». This really touched me and I thought that we’re really like kids, attached to that notion of God. By reading this, I realized that I was attached to something of my own.

You know, when I push the door of the hospital, when it is a bit difficult or when I am having a hard time in my life, I really like to pray and when I pray, I address Him as « you ». When I talk to Christ, Jeshua in this case, I say « you » and I have a conversation with Him, an imaginary one of course, I am not crazy, but in that imaginary conversation I need to address Him as « you ». I thought that we humans are so strange, we need to call Him « you », we need that proximity, we almost need to touch Him, to feel Him, to imagine Him and at the same time, He is infinite… But God… why ?

Daniel Meurois: It is a father figure that we need, but it is certain that at some point of our evolution, our approach and intimate perception of Him will obviously be totally different, that is, much more from inside. We will not place Him outside of us as an absolute point of reference, but as a reality in which we are immersed. Indeed we don’t use Him any more, since we are in Him. He is the Omnipresence which is Love, Compassion and everything we are looking for eventually. There we no longer need any religion, any reference model, because it is our heart’s common sense leading us to understand what is the spirit circulating in us. It does not mean that those beings are into perfection, there is always more perfect than the perfect one, I think that life paths can expand without limits, but… I would say that we are absorbing the light and we are no longer wishing for a light which is outside of us and is our ultimate reference.

Eric Dudoit: In my opinion, that’s what we have a thirst for. You see, whether I am in hospital with seriously ill or dying people, or whether I am in my practice or at the university with students, the only thing that drives us all is very simply « Do you love me ? »

When someone finds a true « Do you love me ? Yes I love you », there are things which are fundamentally different and which transform the individual. Of course it is not a hysteric and a bit dispersed modern fashion « I love you ». I think that our Humanity, all of us need to experiment Life within us. To prove this, we only need to mention movies… – I think it’s a sign… – like Avatar. Besides the fact that it is the story of « Pocahontas in the Stars », it is a bit hollow in the sense of empty, except that in their society, there is a fusion, a union. And that young Marines learns that union and that fusion. The effect that it had onto my students or other people or even onto myself is « Waow, I would like to live in that country… where I can feel the tree, the animal, … »

Daniel Meurois: That is the state of Advaita, that fundamental impossibility of tracing a boarder not only between the other and myself, but between everything that is and myself. This does not mean the annihilation of our personal awareness or perception of ourself, it is an expansion, a marriage, a fusion. And that’s where the beauty is. That’s what a film like that succeeds in doing from time to time, give a feel of beauty so you can experiment it. That beauty is the beauty of the journey of the mind. So we are not masochists…

Eric Dudoit: I don’t think so, but this is what mystics experiment. What I like about Master Eckart, Giordano Bruno and all the others, is that they are really unique while being also fully part of the community, in the sense that they are in the whole. An individual like Giordano Bruno was really someone unique.

Daniel Meurois: Certainly. Excessive, stubborn…

Eric Dudoit: But he said things that no one else had said in the Church, and he said them in an extremely righteous way. I am very happy that a statue was erected in his honour as a Dominican, if I remember well.

Daniel Meurois: As a Dominican indeed. He was defrocked quite rapidly in his life but people keep associating him with Dominican clothes.

Eric Dudoit: Of course, Giordano Bruno may not be known of everyone but to make it very simple, he is the one who suggested mnemonics, he was a genius of mathematics, he was ahead of his time. As you described him well at the level of his character, we will not go back to that, but he was condemned by the Church for atheism and pantheism.

Daniel Meurois: Because he understood the plurality of worlds and certainly not a God outside His creation, as I was saying earlier. In his major book called « On the Infinite, the Universe and the Worlds », we see what type of zoom he used in his understanding of all that is. Of course at the time this resulted in an outcry and he defended himself with such an incredible vehemence till the end when he was burned at the stake.

Eric Dudoit: It is people like him who belong to Christianity, that we should now follow. I think it is important. This is not about rejecting Christianity by saying Christianity and the Church is rotten, it is rather about repositioning ourselves.

Daniel Meurois: It is about trying to restore the core of that Tradition which in many respects has been betrayed, forgotten, undermined also, to such an extent that we no longer know what Christ is, we no longer know what Jesus is. Similarly in other Traditions, we don’t necessarily know any more who were the great beings who have tried to communicate to us what they had learnt and what had eventually transcended them. It is the quest for happiness, this is what we wish to everyone. This is the main relevance of discussions like this one, which in fact are happening in a very spontaneous way.

Jesus the Avatar

Jesus the Avatar

Filmed during an initiatory journey in Jerusalem, Israel in 2011, Daniel Meurois explains the concept of Jesus as an Avatar.
We cannot talk about the Christ Principle without addressing the concept of Avatar. This is a notion that was unknown to us 2000 years ago. Now thanks to contacts with the Middle East, we Westerners can begin to understand what an Avatar is.

For the Easterners, whether Buddhists or Hindus, an Avatar is a divine incarnation, that is, a bodily manifestation of an aspect of a deity. For the Orientals – and this is also valid on a global scale – an Avatar is an emanation of the second person of the Trinity. Thus for Hindus, it is a manifestation on earth of Vishnu, second person of the Hindu « Trinity ». There are Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Shiva can globally be associated to the Holy Spirit, i.e. that which is going to stir us and lead us to transformation; Brahma is the Father ; Vishnu – of whom Krishna is one incarnation – corresponds to the Power of the Son, thus the second person of the Trinity which embodied Master Jesus, overshadowed Him and made Him an Avatar on earth. One does not become Avatar: one is born Avatar, i.e. with the potential of being embodied by that divine Presence.

One of the special features of Master Jesus is that He was in some way a double Avatar: that is, He was first overshadowed by the Presence of the Spirit of Christ, the second person of the Trinity, from His initiation in the Great Pyramid, back from his journey to the East. Secondly, He was overshadowed by the Logos, the Christ of our cosmos, our universe, from His baptism in the Jordan.

At the cosmic plane, we can say that there is one Christ per solar system. The expression of Christ in our planetary or solar system is the Sun. It is its expression, its manifestation. The Supreme Consciousness of that Highly realized and unlimited spiritual being is what we call Christ. It embodied all Avatars through history, among which Master Jesus, 2000 years ago, during an initiation ceremony in the Great Pyramid of Cheops. First embodiment, thus, by the Supreme Consciousness of our solar system, then second embodiment by the same type of consciousness, i.e. Christ Consciousness, but at the level of our whole galaxy -the Milky Way- during the baptism in the Jordan.

It is a bit the principle of Russian dolls. There are two types of enlightenment: one is the enlightenment as Christ in the Great Pyramid and during the second baptism in the Jordan, then there is the sublimation of that enlightenment at the time of the Crucifixion, when the two Presences which have embodied Him -the Christ of our solar system and the Cosmic Christ- leave the body of Jesus. This is what has been interpreted as a cry of despair or cry for help: « Why Have You Forsaken Me?»

No one knows the exact wording, nor did anyone at the time. But something had obviously deserted Him when that Christ Presence, raised to the 100th or 1000th power, abandoned His physical body and when it is said that He « breathed out His spirit ». He did not really release His last breath, but there was in Him a sense of extreme emptiness.

Why was such an externalization necessary? Simply because the energy that was freed out of His body at that very moment, the energy of those two great Christ Presences -Christ and Logos- was such that it allowed the collective karma of humanity to be cleansed. The collective karma of humanity had reached such a saturation point that human consciousness could hardly move to a further stage. It was a bit like an aura cleansing. This is in fact what is meant by the fact that He « delivered us from our sins » during the Crucifixion. How is that to be understood? Very simply, on an energetic, global and vibratory plane: this was about cleansing the Planetary Aura in order to allow it to create a new Breath and move forward.

See “The Secret Life of Jeshua”, Book 1, Daniel Meurois by Ariane books

The Role of the Elohim in the Christic Mission

The Role of the Elohim in the Christic Mission

International congress in Madrid, October 20th and 21st, 2012
In an informative, straightforward and entertaining lecture, Daniel Meurois explains the role of the Elohim, our Brothers from the Stars, in spreading the Word of Christ on Earth. 
Elohim… „Those who come from the sky…“

Hello everyone!

Although I am the one lecturing, I must admit that I did not come forth so much as an official speaker but rather as a friend.  I think you understand that given the singularity of my testimony, I come as a friend wishing to pour my heart into the hearts of other friends.

I have to say that as I listened to the previous speaker whom I didn’t know, I was deeply moved and surprised by the similarity of our respective speeches, so much so that I ended up saying to myself: “My God, this gentleman is presenting my lecture!  “

Well, it’s quite amazing and wonderful, too, how the speeches of two lecturers can link so perfectly together. And I believe this is also what makes events such as this so interesting: seeing how a number of people who don’t know each other and who live in different locations across the planet can have similar but not necessarily identical experiences that lead to exactly the same reflections and the same conclusions.

As you know, the title of this conference is «  the Role of the Elohim in the Christic Mission  ». Why did I choose the word Elohim when most lecturers prefer to speak of Star Brothers or extraterrestrial entities? Well, being of French origin, I chose the term Elohim because in the French culture, as soon as the word extraterrestrial is mentioned, meaning entities living outside the terrestrial sphere, there is always a somewhat pejorative connotation akin to science fiction. In French-speaking countries, as soon as you say “extraterrestrial” people stare and laugh at you because they think of all the movies that no one really takes seriously. I use the term “Elohim” because it is, after all, the term classically used in the Bible to refer to the galactic Brothers, or Star Brothers, who have been guiding us in our evolution since time immemorial(1).

So, how did I become interested in this subject? Well, this is simply due to the singularity of my experience. For those who know me, this is no secret, but for the others I will explain it here very briefly. About forty years ago, I was led to experience the out-of-body phenomenon or decorporation, which is a projection of consciousness, and hence of the soul, outside of the physical body(2). After a period of about seven years, during which I learned to control what is commonly called “astral travel”, I had an encounter with a number of Light Entities outside of my physical body. Some of these Beings introduced themselves to me as Brothers from the Stars, and particularly from the galactic Brotherhood issued from Venus. And this is where we come very close to the previous lecture. The Entities I met during out-of-body experiences immediately introduced themselves as ambassadors of the will of Christ to be incarnated on Earth.

Of course, when I began having these experiences, I was still very young. I had my first experience at the age of 21, and the first contact with the Elohim at the age of 28. So you see, seven years had passed in-between. I immediately began investigating the notion of “Elohim”. Of course I had already heard of the Elohim during catechism classes at school, but I still didn’t know what the word really meant. In the catholic tradition, “Elohim” is translated as “God”, but in fact it is not God because the word Elohim, for those who don’t know it, is a plural, the plural of Eloha. According to experts in Hebrew language who have studied this question, Elohim simply means “those who come from the sky”, or another plural) “those who come from the sky and in whom we can find shelter”. So there is really a notion of protection. And this notion of protection has been revealed to me over the decades by these Entities. The first time this was mentioned, they said that the Earth, our planet, had been under Venusian protectorate since the earliest antiquity. They actually used the term “protectorate”.

At first, when I was still very young, I did not understand clearly how extraterrestrial life could be connected with the coming of Christ on Earth, or with the teachings of Christ. And then I increasingly became aware that there are two types of heretics on Earth: those who are interested in extraterrestrial phenomena, and those who are interested in the hidden aspects and the secret teachings of the great traditions like the Christian tradition, for example. And in my mind, when I was 20-25, I could not conciliate these two positions.  That is when I realized that there was work to be done in trying to reconcile the interest in these visitors who have been trying to guide us since the dawn of time and the teachings of the great masters of wisdom, in particular the teachings of Christ.

When reading the title of this conference, you may have asked yourselves:  What does this actually mean – the Christic mission and the role of the Elohim in the Christic mission? This is the heart of the subject: What is the role of our Brothers from the Stars in spreading the Word of Christ on earth?

So all this matured in me. With the help of these Entities, I came to understand that the notion of Christ and Christic teachings is in no way subject to a notion of religion, and that Christ is not the property of the Christian religion but a force field, a field of consciousness of very high vibratory level. A field that is omnipresent, not only on earth and in all earthly traditions, but also in the whole universe, whether known or unknown. The role of the Elohim is to teach us to perceive this Life energy, this transcendent energy, beyond the person of Master Jeshua who was the receptacle of the Christ Energy at a given moment of our history(3). So I had to go through a whole process to understand that Christ is actually a universal force that is not bound to Christianity itself. Christ is a field of consciousness towards which we are steadily progressing; it is the One announced by all events since the beginning of time. A field of consciousness that is reflected by the emergence (the word was used earlier by another lecturer) of a state of consciousness that the Christians traditionally call the outpouring or the descent of the Holy Spirit. The Christ field of consciousness and the descent of the Holy Spirit are truly very closely related, and the role or mission assumed by our Brothers from the Stars is to separate this from the religious context. Of course, religion was up to a certain point necessary for mankind because religion is a safeguard. Religion has been necessary to mankind because it is a safeguard, and many people on earth still need it because it provides them with rules for living and a structure they cannot do without.  But what is certain is that at some point the Entities from the Stars simply say: “You must have a much broader vision of the Christ Energy that has been showered upon the Earth since the beginning of time. You must now become adults and fully receive the Energy of Life that permeates the whole universe, the nature of which leads you to blossoming from within and to the expansion of your heart”.

So my contact with the Elohim began more than three decades ago and still happens on a regular basis. I can contact them or they contact me; it goes both ways. I can initiate contact, but sometimes they come to me when I don’t expect it. Through them – in particular through the Elohim of the planet Venus, who are privileged partners for our world – I learned that the first time they had taken over supervision of the planet Earth was approximately 18 million years ago. Of course, over the last 18 million years, the Earth has undergone a great many transformations. It is as though the Earth and mankind had written drafts, deleted drafts, torn out pages, etc., until they reached the present era.

Anyway, until quite recently, the world generated by the Elohim 18 million years ago was situated in an ethereal zone of the Himalaya. This space is currently known by the name of Shambhalla, as you are surely aware of. The pole of Shambhalla that was situated in the Himalaya has now shifted. As the previous speaker mentioned it earlier, there has been a shift towards the Andes. This process has taken place during the last 4 or 5 decades. However, one thing is sure, the Himalayan pole is not yet inactive, but there is just a transfer of power between the two, according to the information I have gathered so far.

Whether Himalayan or Andean, it matters little what name we give to Shambhalla.  The name made known to us is always the name of that space in the previous era because as you know, when a space is highly sacred, knowing its current name gives us a kind of psychic or moral hold on it.  This of course cannot be allowed, because these poles are spaces of vibratory government, even if the term “government” tends to frighten people because in their minds government means hierarchy and nowadays most people are wary of anything related to government. But the term is practical, and says what it means. We could also call it “control station”. So the term Shambhalla corresponds to the name of this space in the previous era. What is the name of this Andean Shambhalla that is about to take over with a much more feminine sensibility? It has not been revealed to me and I don’t think it will be, or perhaps an alias would be revealed for the time being. What is certain is that these two poles of Venusian and galactic Energy on Earth vibrate on a very different plane than ours, simply because a space, a place, and by extension a world, is always generated by the level of consciousness of those who inhabit it. Therefore the world as we know it presently, with a certain definition of matter, of physical laws, etc., is simply the result of what we are able to conceive as being the laws of the world. In other words, it resembles us. We project our own limitations into our world. It is absolutely certain, and a number of scientists, especially quantum physicists, are beginning to realize that from the moment we are able to envision our world differently, in other words to conceive different laws governing our way of functioning and our individual behavior, the physical nature of our world will change. We may not realize it, but we live in a holographic world, one that corresponds to our inner universe. This hologram is generated by our consciousness and our collective level of consciousness.

So a world like Shambhalla and its counterpart in the Andes, of which we spoke at length this morning, are the forerunners of the world we are asked not to discover but to generate ourselves. The world of our Brothers from the Stars, or Elohim, is a prototype of what awaits us, you see? And this is why the Elohim regularly invite some of us to visit these vibratory spaces and impress upon these witnesses the heritage awaiting mankind. The real purpose of their coming to earth is to progressively reveal information and infuse our hearts and consciences so that we become increasingly able to grasp that Maya, the concept of illusion dear to the Eastern people, also corresponds to a reality that can be approached on a scientific level through holograms. We literally generate the world we live in and we are responsible for it.

Gatherings such as the one we are having today reflect the fact that we are truly beginning to realize this. We talk about a new era, a change in vibratory level of the planet, etherization of the planet, but what does this actually mean? It doesn’t mean that the aliens are going to appear tomorrow to use a magic wand on the earth; it doesn’t mean that Christ is returning tomorrow morning or that Buddha Maitreya is going to impart his teachings that will unite us all. No, it does not mean this at all. It means that you are really heading towards an inner revelation. And this inner revelation simply means that you are co-creators of your world.

The world you live in and that you currently dislike – and many dislike the world today, except maybe those who are completely out of touch with certain realities and who have everything at their disposal – this world is you, it is we who generate it every minute of our lives.

In this sense, as it was mentioned in the first lecture, we certainly have no reason to act as victims of our present state. We are the generators of our universe.

Now, the Christic mission of these Light Beings, or Brothers from the Stars, is precisely to teach us to become aware of this and to integrate this knowledge within our hearts. The intellect is one thing, but the realization of this in our hearts is another. You may agree on the basis of all kinds of scientific or esoteric theories, or even pseudo-esoteric New Age theories, which definitely confirm the facts, and still nothing happens. By contacting a number of people and by taking advantage of the natural cyclic increase in vibratory level of our planet, our Brothers from the Stars would bring each one of us to a new level of sensibility of the heart and closer to our supraconsciousness. This will generate a critical mass that will be contagious to the whole of mankind.

Of course, should someone who does not share our approach come into this room and listen to us, he would say: “What a bunch of jokers! How many people are there on earth sharing the same opinion? One or two million, maybe three; but we are 7 billion people on earth! So how much does that represent? They claim to be able to change the world with a few million people at most.”
In fact, that’s not the way it works. It works in an exponential manner. And we are all currently engaged in working towards this goal, in this same direction.

I suppose most of you have heard of morphic fields. I’m not sure, do some of you know about them? Oh, not many… Well then, I am going to explain. Ah, here are a few more, but not so many.

This experiment was carried out some thirty years ago by a researcher named Rupert Sheldrake. Rupert Sheldrake did a number of experiments with monkeys living on small isolated islands; I believe in the Pacific. From a helicopter, he had dropped potatoes to a tribe of monkeys who lived there fully isolated from the rest of the world. At one point, his attention was drawn to a female monkey who had apparently discovered something new: she had taken a potato, had dipped it in water to clean the sand off before feeding it to her young. This type of behavior had never been seen before. It meant that one individual of the monkey species had discovered the notion of hygiene, the notion of cleanliness. That was already a discovery in itself, because no one had witnessed this before. But when they returned a few months later, the scientists in charge of this experiment found that all of the tribe’s monkeys had imitated the female monkey. They had all begun to develop a reflex that implied for them a leap in their level of consciousness: the discovery of a bit of hygiene. It is more pleasant to eat a potato without sand than with sand, of course. It seems quite simple, but for the monkey species, this was a leap forward. Anyway, a few months later, the scientists were stunned to discover that monkeys living on distant islands and who hadn’t had any contact with the first monkeys had also mutated and were doing exactly the same thing. Now that was an extraordinary discovery made by Rupert Sheldrake. It meant that when a group of individuals reaches a level of consciousness superior to the average level of its species, it becomes contagious to the whole species, without the necessity of any contact. Rupert Sheldrake called this the discovery of morphic fields. Yet, this discovery is just the scientific illustration of what we have been calling egregors in the disciplines we study. Egregors are collective thought-forms.

This is how, like these monkeys, we are changing our world. We should not expect to be 7 billion people agreeing on the same principles in a year, ten years or even fifty years. We simply need to reach a small mass of individuals who are sufficiently permeated by their discovery, by the discovery of new inner spaces, to contaminate the whole human species. It works exponentially, you see. In the end, this is the goal towards which our Brothers from the Stars – with whom we have been in contact for years and for decades – are working.

At this point, I would like to make a small digression because we saw earlier a number of very beautiful and eloquent slides, all of which were of Celtic origin or from Central and South America. I’ve been wondering about this because I have often focused my attention on the Middle or Near East, on Africa, and on Asia also of course. And I realized, although it may be more obvious in Central and South America, that in all cultures there is a reference to these Beings from the Stars who come to open wide our hearts and our consciousness, affirming: You are not alone and you have inherited a capacity for realization, for self-realization and for the creation of an absolutely unfathomable world based on love, based on opening of the heart and eyes. So I turned to cultures relatively close to our own. I am speaking of the Muslims, who live among us in great numbers and yet, we Christians know very little about Islam. We certainly know less about Islam than the Muslims know about the Christian religion. They acknowledge Jesus-Christ as a prophet whereas we don’t acknowledge their prophet as such. I will not dwell on this since it is not our subject. But my point is that as I turned to the Coran, I noticed that in the Sufi Tradition, in other words among the mystics of Islam, they make extremely precise references to celestial interventions that cannot elicit anything else than extraterrestrial interventions. I jotted down a few sentences on a piece of paper that I am going to read to you because it really shows the universality of the imprint of the Elohim on earth.

In the Coran, for example, a Sufi wrote several centuries ago: “I saw a cloud above my head (well, we have seen many clouds today!) in which there were some kinds of lanterns (of course, we can guess what these are) and the cloud rose up into the air until I could see it no longer”. Another says: “There are several earths in Heaven. There are several earths and each one has a prophet like ours”: an Abraham, a Jesus like yours, etc… This really shows that mankind has received this type of information for ages, despite the fact that the great religions have kept this silent. In black Africa, there are many legends alluding to the Elohim, too. Same thing in Japan, among the Hainus. Then, there is the solar cult mentioned earlier. To them, their teachers came in a vessel resembling a silver cradle and taught them the solar cult. For the Tibetans, whom I know well because I have been in contact with them for many years, the existence of the Elohim is such an evidence that they don’t even talk about it. For them, Shambhalla, whether in the Himalaya or in the Andes, is a vibratory level. A lama I once spoke to referred to it as a piece of another planet that had been grafted on the earth; in other words, a piece of vibratory energy, a state of consciousness that implanted itself on our planet. And more recently, among the Christians, I was surprised to read some press articles that showed that the Vatican was starting to feel the heat, in other words they felt the need to open up to this reality. About a year and a half ago, I believe, they published an official declaration in the press in which they opened up to the possibility – they are always careful – of the plurality of worlds. Well…With these few words, they took a major step forward.

Of course, people who believe in the existence of our brothers from the stars, the Elohim, and in their mission of awakening, and have not had any direct contact with them (which remains the privilege of a few persons only), might ask themselves what are the reasons for such discretion. There are lots of videos and photographs of them from various places, but the vast majority of the human population on earth has never witnessed such phenomena. There are even among the witnesses those who say it is an optical illusion or a trick, etc. As we know, special effects can be used in films to create an illusion with amazing realism. So why such discretion? It is quite easy to understand, really. In their task of initiators of a movement towards a new consciousness these Entities do not want to act like parents who do their children’s homework. In other words, they are determined to give us, to leave us our free will. They can make suggestions, of course, but leave us full responsibility for our actions. If we fall, then we learn from this fall. We will have to learn from the way we get back on our feet, etc. This is how they have accompanied us and helped us get back on our feet countless times throughout history. Each time, they also left their imprint by guiding or inspiring a number of great Beings on earth; Masters and Avatars who have marked history.

The Master Jesus, whose life – for those of you who know – I have been able to study in great detail through the great universal memory of the Akashic Records, was constantly in contact with the Elohim. This fact is not sufficiently known and I try to mention it often. Yes, he was constantly in touch with them until the very moment of his resurrection, when they performed treatments to allow him to regenerate. I have written about this in “The Way of the Essenes”, a book that is already 32 or 33 years old. Two thousand years ago, He revealed to a few chosen apostles who were able to hear such things that his soul was not of Earthly but of Venusian origin. The same is true of a number of masters of wisdom whose earthly base is Shambhalla, whether Himalayan or Andean.

Now, this doesn’t mean that all those who are instrumental in spreading the Christic teachings on earth come from Venus. Some Earthlings have reached this level of consciousness too, fortunately; otherwise it would be rather discouraging for us inhabitants of the Earth. But we should know that these Brothers from the Stars, while assuming different personalities and adopting different traditions, have indeed been our guides for a very long time and do not intend to stop now. On the contrary, they are intensifying their efforts at this point in history as the Earth –in all respects an autonomous living being, endowed with a body, which is the concern of ecological science, but also with a soul, therefore an intelligence, and a spirit – is moving forward through the universe and being caught in an ascending movement. The heart of the Earth is beating. So the Earth moves, and therefore modifies its vibratory level as was mentioned earlier, with a frequency level that has risen from 7.8 to 12 or even a little higher now. And what does an entity of this dimension do? As every living being, it follows the course of its own evolution. It won’t stall its progression and go against the current of the spiraling ascending movement of our whole Universe just because the humanity it bears and nourishes cannot follow. So it’s really up to us to accomplish the work. And it is too late to turn back now.

In my opinion, all kinds of tensions and exacerbated emotions we experience today as well as the large number of depressions, burn-outs and resignations, suicides, and new diseases emerging here and there, and that, without intending to be unduly pessimistic, seem to be spreading at an exponential rate, reflect the fact that mankind, and certain people in particular, are not able to progress in synchronization with the planet.

What we are endeavoring to do here is to mature and integrate this reality of cosmic dimension in the best possible way, because nothing will prevent this reality that corresponds to the will of the Divine Intelligence; so not only should we work on ourselves, but we should also become contagious.

I am sure all the participants in this congress will agree with me when I say: When we leave tomorrow evening, we should not be entirely the same as when we first entered this hotel. That is, our inner and our cardiac energies, as well as our perception of subtle laws should feel energized and we should be feeling a little more responsible for the future of our world. It is not enough to say: “I know, I’ve understood it all and I am going to be saved when a spaceship comes, I will be among the chosen ones”, or “when Maitreya returns, he will recognize me as having understood”. This is not the way it works. We are all part of the same body. Each human being is a cell of the great body called humanity. And this humanity is itself a cell of another great body we can call the galactic body; and the galactic body in turn… and so on and so forth. You see, it is infinite. We must become cells of the Divine body, or rather we must become conscious cells of the Divine body because we are already cells of the Divine body, but we must become cells that are more conscious of the divine body to come closer to the Divine with a capital D.

So, how can we do this? It takes of course a bit of reflection, but not the mental reflection we are used to. I would say the kind of reflection of our supraconsciousness. Our supraconsciousness manifests on the level of an eighth chakra. As you know, traditionally, we speak of seven energy centers along the spine. But one of the elements of the teachings that Christ, through the person of Jesus or Jeshua, passed onto his apostles two thousand years ago, is the existence of an eighth chakra beyond the seven first chakras.

This eighth chakra is like a milky-white sphere floating about 50 centimeters above our heads. We saw something a bit similar on the slides earlier. This eighth chakra is embryonic in persons who are, say, not awakened; it looks like a little pea. But as a person matures and grows within, this little pea becomes like a small sun. And when this small sun develops, it gives birth to our supraconsciousness or what some Eastern schools of thought call the supramental. You may have heard of Sri Aurobindo in India, and of his partner called Mother. She used to speak of a state of consciousness that she named the Supramental. The Gnostic Christians would call this state of consciousness allowing a deeper understanding of the meaning of life than what is perceived through the mind, the Noũs. The Noũs is mentioned a lot in the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, one of the key scriptures of the gnostic movement.

Anyway, whatever name we give it, this new state of consciousness certainly is reached through the opening of the eighth chakra, which is the result of the expansion of our heart and of our higher intelligence. Through the opening of the eighth chakra, we experience a state of realization that cannot really be described with words. It is the same process of awakening that the apostles experienced during the famous event we know as Pentecost.

Having had the privilege of being in contact with a number of ascended masters over several decades, and on the basis of my own observations of the aura, I realized that at a given stage of awakening, the sphere indicative of the presence of the eighth chakra and the blossoming of the Christ consciousness in a human being reveals two rays going out from each side of the sphere and simultaneously a ray descending to the top of the head in the area of the fontanel, and another ray ascending from this same area. When you see this image forming, you really get the impression of a dove coming and embracing the person you see. This is why the famous scene of baptism in the Jordan River is described by the Christian tradition as the descent of the Holy Spirit upon Jesus in the form of a dove. This was simply because the clairvoyants who witnessed this event got this same impression, while in fact it was the complete overshadowing of the Christ consciousness taking place.

This is the state of realization we are heading for. Jesus was the historical Christ, but the promise of His teachings and of the teachings of the Elohim or Brothers from the Stars, is that we are all called to experience a similar event at some point of our evolution because we are children of the Divine, just like He is. This means we have the same potential of creation, generation and regeneration. This is the line of thought our Brothers from the Stars have been teaching in the context of the mission they were assigned on earth: the Christic mission. There is absolutely no difference between the mission of Christ, the mission of all great Masters of wisdom and the mission of the Brothers from the Stars. On the contrary, there is complete convergence between them.

And this leads us to become increasingly aware of the role of our superior consciousness, of our supramental, but also of the major role of our heart. Symbolically speaking, the heart is the meeting point of the horizontal and the vertical axes. The ancient Egyptians had discovered – and this is now confirmed by certain modern scientists – the presence of an extremely small point in the human heart consisting of approximately 40,000 cells. 40,000 cells in the heart is indeed a very small spot. And every heart surgeon today knows about a specific spot in the heart that they are taught to locate ant that must be avoided at all costs lest immediate death should follow. [This spot was named the life point by the ancient Egyptians, who of course knew about the subtle anatomy of the human body. For them, this spot was made of condensed Akasha.

Akasha is the memory of the universe; it is the material support for memory in the universe. Akasha is where the Divine is best expressed. In Western culture, we traditionally call this life-point the primal atom. So there are cells that are the physical counterpart of the condensed Akasha that constitutes the primal atom.  And this primal atom contains the entire memory of what we are, as well as the memory of our divine spark.

When our life experiences stimulate this point, or when certain Masters of wisdoms or great Avatars stimulate this point, they act as a geneticist who would stimulate, using stem cells to generate an organism.

 These beings (our great initiators, our great Masters of wisdom) are there to awaken the memory, the primal spark, the initial stem cell containing the information of our divine origin. And when this point is stimulated, we experience expansion of our whole being and illumination. This is what some call the ascension of human consciousness.

There is something I want to be very clear about, and I think many things were said that go in this direction: We should not expect our Brothers from the Stars – or Christ returning, Maitreya or the Imam Mahdi for the Muslims – to simply appear before us to stimulate our deep memory or our hard drive, to use a very contemporary term, in order to make us ascend. No, this job is ours to do. They act as relays and reminders, they push us in a certain direction, they are like sign posts on our way, as I have often said, but it is not they who will do the work.

The reason we are gathered here today is to fill our hearts with a little more energy in order to be able to accomplish the real work on ourselves. It  is a work of meditation, of internalization (and we have a multitude of techniques at our disposal), but also a work with the concrete aspects of our daily lives. The concrete and the sacred finally merge together as they are the two aspects of a single force endeavoring to stimulate us: the Christ Energy.

It’s up to us to know whether we want to prolong the state of duality in which we have lost ourselves since time immemorial or whether we really want to change our way of functioning. I believe that if we are here today, it is because we want to change the way we function, because we no longer want to react according to the law that dictates “an eye for an eye”, because we know there is a way of life that is infinitely more beautiful and much lighter than what we have been taught, I would say both genetically and traditionally to this day.

We urgently need to highlight the notion of service, the notion of compassion, the notion of involvement in the transformation of our everyday lives. The notion of acceptance and the will to understand the meaning of our trials. This is what is asked of us today. If we remain at the stage we are now and in which we’ve been stagnating for a very long time, it is obvious that we won’t entirely be capable of understanding the real significance of the universal Christ Energy, nor the invitation to transformation from the Universe. An invitation that the Earth, our Brothers from the Stars, and all the great Masters of Light are presently extending to us.

Practically speaking, what must we do? As was mentioned before, there are implications at all levels of our world. The respect for matter, finding the sacred within matter,  the will to understand what we are and why we find ourselves in a particular condition; and finally, we should aspire to truth and drop all our masks. Too often have we hid behind masks throughout thousands of years, hundreds of thousands of years, or even millions of years, through a multitude of forms we embodied. This is over now. Now we need to aim directly at the target. And if we go here (pointing to the heart), the blossom will open there (pointing to the 8th chakra). This is really the message I wanted to convey today because this is what it all boils down to in the end; this is the heart of the message I have had the pleasure of receiving for almost forty years now.

In this spirit, I put in your hands – no, we put in each other’s hands the responsibility for the evolution and the progress of our planet, so that love and compassion do not remain empty words but become a real force, an energy of transmutation that we set in motion without delay. Not tomorrow, today.

Thank you all!

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(3) See : “The Secret Life of Jeshua” Book 1, Daniel Meurois by Ariane Editions