Interview on Essenian and Egyptian Therapies

Interview on Essenian and Egyptian Therapies

In an exceptional interview, Marie Johanne Croteau and Daniel Meurois speak freely and abundantly about their common book, “The Great Book of Essenian and Egyptian Therapies”, and about their training courses in France and Quebec.

Interview on Essenian and Egyptian Therapies

Guillaume Dalzil : Daniel Meurois, you are known for your numerous books. Your last book, entitled “The Great Book of Essenian and Egyptian Therapies”, was published a few months ago. Why did you decide to write this book in collaboration with your wife, Marie-Johanne Croteau?

Daniel Meurois : For a very simple reason. From the moment we met and started living together, it became clear to us that we shared exactly the same approach regarding the therapies. As a matter of fact, when we met, when I got to know her, I realized that I was not the only one practicing energetic therapies according to the Essenian and Egyptian method but Marie-Johanne also had this capacity. She had not acquired this knowledge and come to the same conclusions by the same means but I was surprised to see that we ended up using the same method. It was really amazing, I had never seen that before and it surely played a significant role in bringing us together.

Ever since we started living together, quite a few years back, we have worked and taught together. She was the one who initiated a training course in energy healing and then it became clear to me that I could not write this book alone and that it should be the fruit of our work together. It could not be otherwise, it was just normal and logical that this was the way it should be.

Guillaume Dalzil : Marie-Johanne, what prompted your involvement in writing this book that has already become a reference in the field? Was it a feeling, an impulse, or a necessity?

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : A bit of everything. I would like to stress the fact that I was not introduced to these therapies through Daniel Meurois because I had become his wife, but that I was born with a gift for therapy. At least I have had it for as long as I can remember.

I studied literature, fine arts, and pharmacy. For 11 years, I worked in various units of a major hospital in Quebec: traumatology, recovery, intensive care and emergency. I have cared for dying patients accompanying them at the end of their lives and I also saw patients in my house very simply and discreetly without being known.

By chance, but of course everything happens for a reason, I heard of Daniel Meurois’ books around 1986.

At the time, I was pregnant with my daughter Virginie and my gynecologist recommended me the book “Les neuf marches” (The Nine Steps”). He asked me if I had read the book “Les neuf marches” by Daniel MeuroisI said I hadn’t and he advised me to read it. So I read it and it was a great help through my pregnancy… But I became curious about that name Daniel Meurois… And then I read every book that had already been published: The Way of the Essenes, “Récits d’un voyageur de l’astral” (“Tales of an astral traveller”), “Terre d’Emeraude” (Emerald Land”), etc but without ever meeting the author, because until “Les neuf marches”, there was never a picture of the author at the back of the books so I had no idea of who Daniel Meurois was.

“L’Evangile de Marie-Madeleine” (“The Gospel of Mary Magdalene”) was published in 2000 and that is when I felt an irresistible call and started thinking about ways to get in touch with Daniel Meurois.

I ended up writing him an email with the heading “The Magdalean”.

Don’t worry, I am not saying that I am the incarnation of Mary Magdalene, but I wanted to draw Daniel’s attention to the fact that this energy meant something to me and was driving me to act. It was an awakening… an impulse.

I sent the email and Daniel’s answer came within ten minutes. I then asked him if he was interested in giving a conference in Quebec on the subject of Mary Magdalene. His answer was yes, and so we met. He showed me some of the therapies, we discussed our respective methods, and it finally became clear to us that we shared the same knowledge. I have never taken a training course in energy healing; I just have an innate knowledge of the therapies, a knowledge that comes from inside, a bit like a channeling. I realized that it was the same thing for Daniel, but I didn’t know the story behind his knowledge of the therapies.

 

So we talked about it and compared our therapeutic methods. Then in 2003, we gradually lost sight of each other, until we met again in 2005 and decided to live together. Some encounters in life are really important and cannot be denied. Even if we have to leave our old lives behind, they bring us forward on the path. When we start being too comfortable it’s time to move on and that’s just what we did.

In our house in Estrie I saw that he had put in the closet all the tapes of his early channelings and teachings on Essenian therapies that he had received from our “Friends from above”, the Elohim, and everything he had written was also carelessly stored away.

When I opened the closet, I asked Daniel why he had left all this material unused. He answered that he thought it wasn’t important anymore. I told him I didn’t agree; that there were messages from Morya, Djwal Khul, Kuthumi, and the Elohim about all the therapies we practice and that he should not just leave them unused

So I went over all the subjects, selected the best therapies and the best excerpts from the channelings, and we conceived the book “Ce qu’Ils m’ont dit” (“What They Told Me”). After that, in 2008-2009, we had the idea of initiating a training course in Essenian and Egyptian therapies in France.

Daniel Meurois : Anyway, all this period really brought to light the fact that we worked in the same way, maybe more intuitively for her, and for me on the basis of the data I had written down; I’ll explain this later… But it was fascinating to see how everything fit together perfectly. So we simply had to work together, because it was absolutely the same thing.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : So we conceived the training course and had students in 2009-2010-2011. Meanwhile we were receiving new information from our Friends from above, the Elohim, “those who have always stood by our side”. You mentioned it in “Ce qu’Ils m’ont dit”, and in various other books… We wrote this information down.

These new practices focus a little more on the diseases of the XXI century, diseases that have developed over the last decades, and we have adapted them to treat asthma, sleep apnea, diabetes, infertility, and prostate disorders. We added the practice of surrender which was taught to Shlomit, Mary Salome.

If you have read “Le Testament des trois Marie” (“The Legacy of The Three Marys”) by Daniel Meurois, you may know that Mary Salome was one incarnation of my soul and it is partly through her memory that we have been able to revive these therapies, in addition to Daniel’s memories as Simon in “The Way of the Essenes” and Nagar Têth in “La Demeure du Rayonnant” (“The Abode of the Shining One”).

We put all these data together with the help of the Elohim, and with Christ’s help, too, because He is who brings us together. We feel very close to the Christ Energy, not in the sense that we are taking ourselves for the Christ, but His message means a lot to us and His Energy is always with us.

Daniel Meurois : The Christ Energy is indeed essential to us.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : So this is how we compiled this information and started to teach.

Guillaume Dalzil :  Daniel, where do these therapies actually come from? What is their origin and how did you access this knowledge?

Daniel Meurois : My case is a bit unusual because I acquired this knowledge in two different ways: first by channeling, as Marie-Johanne mentioned a moment ago, that is to say through the presence of Light Beings who gave me information that I then scrupulously wrote down, and then through readings of the Akashic Records, the Memory of Time.

That is when I really understood that this therapeutic method was known to both the ancient Egyptians of the time of the pharaoh Akhenaton and the Essenes. For those who don’t know much about them, the Essenes were a group of mystics from which the Master Jesus originated.

From the historical point of view, it is not clear straightaway what was the connection between the Egyptians of the time of Akhenaton and the Essenes, who were Hebrews of Jewish origin, and how the knowledge about the therapies was passed on from one people to the other.

The answer is simple: the knowledge was transmitted through Moses and his close ones. Everyone knows the famous story of the Hebrews wandering from Egypt to the land of Palestine. That is when the knowledge was transmitted.

In an exceptional interview, Marie Johanne Croteau and Daniel Meurois speak freely and abundantly about their common book, “The Great Book of Essenian and Egyptian Therapies”, and about their training courses in France and Quebec.    Guillaume Dalzil : Daniel Meurois, you are known for your numerous books. Your last book, entitled “The Great Book of Essenian and Egyptian Therapies”, was published a few months ago. Why did you decide to write this book in collaboration with your wife, Marie-Johanne Croteau?  Daniel Meurois : For a very simple reason. From the moment we met and started living together, it became clear to us that we shared exactly the same approach regarding the therapies. As a matter of fact, when we met, when I got to know her, I realized that I was not the only one practicing energetic therapies according to the Essenian and Egyptian method but Marie-Johanne also had this capacity. She had not acquired this knowledge and come to the same conclusions by the same means but I was surprised to see that we ended up using the same method. It was really amazing, I had never seen that before and it surely played a significant role in bringing us together.  Ever since we started living together, quite a few years back, we have worked and taught together. She was the one who initiated a training course in energy healing and then it became clear to me that I could not write this book alone and that it should be the fruit of our work together. It could not be otherwise, it was just normal and logical that this was the way it should be.  Guillaume Dalzil : Marie-Johanne, what prompted your involvement in writing this book that has already become a reference in the field? Was it a feeling, an impulse, or a necessity?  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : A bit of everything. I would like to stress the fact that I was not introduced to these therapies through Daniel Meurois because I had become his wife, but that I was born with a gift for therapy. At least I have had it for as long as I can remember.  I studied literature, fine arts, and pharmacy. For 11 years, I worked in various units of a major hospital in Quebec: traumatology, recovery, intensive care and emergency. I have cared for dying patients accompanying them at the end of their lives and I also saw patients in my house very simply and discreetly without being known.  By chance, but of course everything happens for a reason, I heard of Daniel Meurois’ books around 1986.  At the time, I was pregnant with my daughter Virginie and my gynecologist recommended me the book “Les neuf marches” (“The Nine Steps”). He asked me if I had read the book “Les neuf marches” by Daniel Meurois. I said I hadn’t and he advised me to read it. So I read it and it was a great help through my pregnancy… But I became curious about that name Daniel Meurois… And then I read every book that had already been published: “The Way of the Essenes”, “Récits d’un voyageur de l’astral” (“Tales of an astral traveller”), “Terre d’Emeraude” (“Emerald Land”), etc but without ever meeting the author, because until “Les neuf marches”, there was never a picture of the author at the back of the books so I had no idea of who Daniel Meurois was.  “L’Evangile de Marie-Madeleine” (“The Gospel of Mary Magdalene”) was published in 2000 and that is when I felt an irresistible call and started thinking about ways to get in touch with Daniel Meurois.  I ended up writing him an email with the heading “The Magdalean”.  Don’t worry, I am not saying that I am the incarnation of Mary Magdalene, but I wanted to draw Daniel’s attention to the fact that this energy meant something to me and was driving me to act. It was an awakening… an impulse.  I sent the email and Daniel’s answer came within ten minutes. I then asked him if he was interested in giving a conference in Quebec on the subject of Mary Magdalene. His answer was yes, and so we met. He showed me some of the therapies, we discussed our respective methods, and it finally became clear to us that we shared the same knowledge. I have never taken a training course in energy healing; I just have an innate knowledge of the therapies, a knowledge that comes from inside, a bit like a channeling. I realized that it was the same thing for Daniel, but I didn’t know the story behind his knowledge of the therapies.  Marie Johanne Croteau and Daniel Meurois  So we talked about it and compared our therapeutic methods. Then in 2003, we gradually lost sight of each other, until we met again in 2005 and decided to live together. Some encounters in life are really important and cannot be denied. Even if we have to leave our old lives behind, they bring us forward on the path. When we start being too comfortable it’s time to move on and that’s just what we did.  In our house in Estrie I saw that he had put in the closet all the tapes of his early channelings and teachings on Essenian therapies that he had received from our “Friends from above”, the Elohim, and everything he had written was also carelessly stored away.  When I opened the closet, I asked Daniel why he had left all this material unused. He answered that he thought it wasn’t important anymore. I told him I didn’t agree; that there were messages from Morya, Djwal Khul, Kuthumi, and the Elohim about all the therapies we practice and that he should not just leave them unused…  So I went over all the subjects, selected the best therapies and the best excerpts from the channelings, and we conceived the book “Ce qu’Ils m’ont dit” (“What They Told Me”). After that, in 2008-2009, we had the idea of initiating a training course in Essenian and Egyptian therapies in France.  Daniel Meurois : Anyway, all this period really brought to light the fact that we worked in the same way, maybe more intuitively for her, and for me on the basis of the data I had written down; I’ll explain this later… But it was fascinating to see how everything fit together perfectly. So we simply had to work together, because it was absolutely the same thing.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : So we conceived the training course and had students in 2009-2010-2011. Meanwhile we were receiving new information from our Friends from above, the Elohim, “those who have always stood by our side”. You mentioned it in “Ce qu’Ils m’ont dit”, and in various other books… We wrote this information down.  These new practices focus a little more on the diseases of the XXI century, diseases that have developed over the last decades, and we have adapted them to treat asthma, sleep apnea, diabetes, infertility, and prostate disorders. We added the practice of surrender which was taught to Shlomit, Mary Salome.  If you have read “Le Testament des trois Marie” (“The Legacy of The Three Marys”) by Daniel Meurois, you may know that Mary Salome was one incarnation of my soul and it is partly through her memory that we have been able to revive these therapies, in addition to Daniel’s memories as Simon in “The Way of the Essenes” and Nagar Têth in “La Demeure du Rayonnant” (“The Abode of the Shining One”).  We put all these data together with the help of the Elohim, and with Christ’s help, too, because He is who brings us together. We feel very close to the Christ Energy, not in the sense that we are taking ourselves for the Christ, but His message means a lot to us and His Energy is always with us.  Daniel Meurois : The Christ Energy is indeed essential to us.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : So this is how we compiled this information and started to teach.  Guillaume Dalzil :  Daniel, where do these therapies actually come from? What is their origin and how did you access this knowledge?  Daniel Meurois : My case is a bit unusual because I acquired this knowledge in two different ways: first by channeling, as Marie-Johanne mentioned a moment ago, that is to say through the presence of Light Beings who gave me information that I then scrupulously wrote down, and then through readings of the Akashic Records, the Memory of Time.  Akashic photo of Jesus  That is when I really understood that this therapeutic method was known to both the ancient Egyptians of the time of the pharaoh Akhenaton and the Essenes. For those who don’t know much about them, the Essenes were a group of mystics from which the Master Jesus originated.  From the historical point of view, it is not clear straightaway what was the connection between the Egyptians of the time of Akhenaton and the Essenes, who were Hebrews of Jewish origin, and how the knowledge about the therapies was passed on from one people to the other.  The answer is simple: the knowledge was transmitted through Moses and his close ones. Everyone knows the famous story of the Hebrews wandering from Egypt to the land of Palestine. That is when the knowledge was transmitted.  There was actually a strong relation between the knowledge of Moses, who was of Egyptian origin, Akhenatonand the sensitivity of a faction of the Hebrew people. All of this happened unofficially, secretly, and in that way, this common knowledge wandered from one land to the other. Over the years, I have been able to receive a large amount of information by telepathy and through readings of the Memory of the Past, and I gathered it with Marie-Johanne’s help into a real body of information that is still likely to grow as she pointed out before.  Personally, I didn’t realize straightaway the importance of this information and it was only after her intervention that I began thinking that it would indeed be a pity to leave it all in a closet. After that, the idea of a book written jointly slowly took shape until we just knew that we had to do it.  Guillaume Dalzil : What about you, Marie Johanne, how did you acquire this knowledge, this know-how? Can you tell us about your experience of this healing method?  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : My experience of this method is rather special. First of all, like Daniel, it is based on readings of the akashic records, and in my case of the memory of Mary Salome or Shlomit, as I mentioned before, but also on Christ’s support. When I treat a patient, I become one with Him, that is to say I establish a triangular, Trinitarian connection between heaven, the patient and the therapist. I have proceeded in this manner ever since I was very small, it is an innate knowledge I have had from birth.  So there is a continuous exchange between heaven, therapist and patient. The energy goes through the heart of the therapist and back to the patient.  When I treat a patient, I become completely oblivious of his or her skin and body becomes like a luminous map where I can see the nadis and the sub-nadis, and I hear inside of me the voice of Master Jeshua who accompanies me through the whole procedure and tells me where to go. Mastering a technique is good, knowing the right gestures too, but above all that, there must be a connection with the Sacred and there must be compassion. Daniel and I insist a lot on that.  When I treat a patient, I am with Master Jeshua. I say this very humbly. He accompanies me through the sessions and I always wait for a sign from Him before removing my hand and going ahead with another gesture. I can see it in His eyes; yes, I can see His eyes and His look tells me when enough energy has been infused and when I can move on to another part of the patient’s body.  This is how I proceed.  Guillaume Dalzil :  According to you, what is the difference between these therapies and other methods of energy healing?  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : The Sacred aspect, the precision of the techniques, the gestures, the connection with energies from above, the solar circulation as we described it in the book, where the energy that is renewed in Heaven flows through the heart of the therapist and back to the patient, and so on and so forth…  Essenian-Egyptian Therapies  We have really emphasized to our students the necessity of acquiring this posture, of learning the art of dancing with both the subtle and the dense matter, because we don’t just work with the subtle matter, we also work on the physical body; I teach them to touch the body because a lot of people are lonely, without love, and suffer from not being touched. Illness is also a lack of love, and that is why we touch the patients a lot.  And I am glad to say that the students have really understood and integrated the Trinitarian and Sacred aspect. It is really touching to watch them performing this dance, because in the beginning, they all said: “But, Marie-Johanne, we’ll never be able to do this dance, to master this art, this sacred aspect. We don’t have the capacity to learn that”. And now look at them, the first group has already yielded therapists and teachers, and all the students of the second group also have the capacity to do it and this makes me really very happy.  Daniel Meurois : Yes, this is what is really amazing with this method, the fact that it combines a great precision in movement with a detailed knowledge of the subtle anatomy of the human body, and at the same time a kind of fluidity that is all-encompassing.  When we teach, we try to show our students how the very precise gestures they are learning should flow together like a dance. It is really amazing. I would say that there is something very graceful in this manner of transmitting the Sacred Energy.  Of course, this method is only one of many. Nowadays, there is a large number of different therapeutic methods. However, I believe that the sacred aspect is really the fundamental characteristic of our method. If the Christ Energy in the broad sense of the term does not inhabit the therapist then nothing will happen. Personally, I think that all great traditions attest to the same Presence that can be called Christ, Buddha, etc… The name does not matter because it is the same Sacred Principle that we must learn to integrate and transmit through our hands. The accuracy of the gestures is extremely important at first, but there comes a time when the therapist transcends the techniques and his moves become much more intuitive. But this requires a lot of practice.  This training course extends over a period of three years at the rate of two intensive sessions per year. However, completing the training course of three years will not necessarily make you a therapist. This requires a lot of practice and is also a question of personal development. Besides, our book and our courses are not only meant for people who want to be therapists… A large number of our readers or students just do this for self-improvement. They want to understand what life is about and learn about the constituents of the light that permeates our reality and causes our hearts to expand.  What is life? What is the movement of life? I would say that about two-thirds of those who become interested in our books or courses are doing it for reasons of self-improvement and it really helps. As a matter of fact, there are two levels in the way we can receive this Tradition today, because knowing how our body works at the subtle level also means learning to live better, having a better understanding of the difficulties of others, and sometimes knowing the right attitude or the gestures that will help us or others.  It is a deep understanding of the subtle laws of life.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  There are no preliminary requirements for attending our training course in Essenian and Egyptian therapies. I rather go by intuition. I always ask for a photograph, look at the eyes and the resume, but especially take into consideration the intention of the heart and the will to open up.Essenian-Egyptian Therapies  The therapies bring about an inner purification, and our students have all gone through phases of tears, joy or discouragement.  Daniel Meurois : It is a method of self-transformation as well as a method of learning the therapies. The students really experience a personal change and this is really noticeable on those who complete the three years of training. They are not the same as when they started the course and it even shows physically on the photos.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : Yes it does…  Daniel Meurois : A transformation takes place in those who take the training seriously and do not content themselves with taking notes on the correct position of the hands. Of course, this is a necessary phase too, but I would say it is quite insignificant compared to all else that happens.  We also need to point out that we are currently in the process of passing on the torch as teachers of this method.  After completion of the current training course in the spring of 2014, we are going to withdraw from teaching, at least in France and in Europe. We will set up a new training course in Quebec, but as far as the European continent is concerned, we are going to delegate the task to some of our former students who were among the best and whom we trust entirely.  Prospective students in Europe should not expect to be taught by us directly. Teachers who have been trained by us personally and who have earned our trust will offer the courses.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : And nothing prevents the residents of Europe who are interested in this method from coming to Quebec to learn with us…  Daniel Meurois : Yes, we already have some prospective students willing to cross the Atlantic.  Guillaume Dalzil :  Daniel, can you tell us about the challenges you faced and the values you wanted to prioritize when writing this book? Was it an adventure?    Daniel Meurois :  Writing a book is always an adventure, because you know the starting point and where you want to go, at least approximately, but you never know how you are going to get there.  As far as I am concerned, the greatest challenge in writing this book was clarity. I wanted to be as clear as possible in view of the fact that the method Marie-Johanne and I have been trying to explain is very precise and relatively complex technically speaking.  The real challenge has been to clarify the explanatory text and then to conceive the illustrations. For that, we first had to work on a living model, and take photos with the correct position of the hands etc… After that, we asked an illustrator to translate what was expressed in each photograph and then to add symbols, points of reference, arrows, circles, numbers, etc… We wanted the drawings to illustrate the text as precisely as possible. We really had a tremendous amount of work during Essenian-Egyptian Therapiesapproximately one year, so much so that this is really what I’ll remember this book by. We wanted everything to be perfect.  Of course, it is always possible to do better, but we set high standards right from the beginning and insisted on large drawings in close relation to the explanations. The technical part of the book was the most complex, but at the same time, we didn’t want the reader to lose sight of the sacred and metaphysical aspect.  For this purpose, we selected a number of quotations from my other books to match the therapies and the illustrations, and to set them in the philosophical and historical context.  We also endeavored to give the reader a clear perception of the concepts developed in this book. I am speaking of the whole metaphysical part and the information on the subtle constitution of the human body, in other words all the preliminary notions which had to be developed prior to explaining the method itself.  For this reason, writing this book was like giving birth, with all the labor involved. I think our readers understand this. At least, the book has met with considerable interest so far. After all the work we have put in it, it is a great reward for us when our readers tell us that they consider it a very useful working tool that is also pleasant to consult.  This book is very special to me among all the other books I have written. It is also Marie-Johanne’s first book and I think it was a marking experience for her, because writing a book together and giving birth to a working tool is really an adventure. It is no little matter, it isn’t just storytelling. We provide a working tool and there is real satisfaction in doing this.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  There is one thing Daniel has forgotten to mention. Among our students, we have physicians, psychotherapists, physiotherapists, and osteopaths. One of them, Dr Marc Medvesek, helped us define clearly the different pathologies and explain the indications for the different therapies and all the references to organs.  I think the result is perfect.  Daniel Meurois : Yes, it really is. Besides, we also wanted to show both our readers and our students that we don’t think that any type of medicine or therapy should exclude other methods.  As far as we are concerned, as teachers of this particular method we would never advise anyone against consulting a physician practicing traditional western medicine. In our opinion, it would be best for patients who opt for this type of therapy to be at the same time under the care of a qualified physician in allopathic or homeopathic medicine. There should always be a medical supervision because we should not take ourselves for what we are not. We are not physicians; we just practice a wonderful method that has been offered to us and it is our wish that our work should be examined and supervised by a qualified physician. There are more and more physicians, physiotherapists and psychologists today who are interested in this type of therapy.  I think the medicine of the future should be able to embrace all the different therapeutic approaches to the human body.  Anyway, we wanted to stress this point because this is surely not about saying we have the one and only solution. No, this is a wonderful therapeutic approach but it does not exclude any other form of therapy.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : We are not miracle workers.  Daniel Meurois : We are not miracle workers. However, we teach a very beautiful method to help human beings improve their health, understand the purpose of their illnesses, and find out what they are made of.  Guillaume Dalzil :  Do you think it is important that the knowledge you have been entrusted with should be disseminated as widely as possible?  Daniel Meurois : Yes, I think so because it is not only a matter of spreading a specific knowledge, but also of a change in consciousness. When we tackle concepts such as those developed in our book on Essenian and Egyptian therapies, we start seeing the world differently. This new perspective does a bit of tidying up in our heads regarding a lot of things we have learned, regarding the pollution caused by our emotions, regarding the rigidity of our outlook. This is why we think it is important to disseminate this information as widely as possible because it contributes to the current mutation towards another level of consciousness that we need so badly in our world.  In this way, it is a therapeutic tool, but also, as we were saying a moment ago, an instrument for global transformation that enables us to look at life differently.  This is what we need most today. This will help overcome our inner barriers.  Guillaume Dalzil : Daniel, do you not fear the dissemination of this knowledge will bring about pitfalls?  Daniel Meurois :  There are always pitfalls…  As soon as you do something, you always have the pros and the cons. Of course, when you publish a book containing precise information on a therapeutic method like this one, there is always a risk that someone is going to play the therapist apprentice on the basis of this information.  I think this cannot be avoided. When you reflect on certain things, when you publish certain information, there will always be a number of people who will try it out without being properly focused, without having the necessary skills. There are always two sides to the coin.  This is also why it had become important, even urgent, to clarify all this information, all the more so since we noticed over the years that a number of things people were saying about this or similar methods were wrong.  We thought it was important to clarify everything. And even if there are some people who “play a little”, who pretend to work as therapists without having the necessary experience, at least this method is not harmful and there are no risks involved except the risk of being entirely ineffective.  But these people will be sorted out eventually. You really have to be inhabited by this spirit for something to happen.  Either you are called to be a therapist or it will just be a flash in the pan. In any case, these therapies cannot do any harm.  Guillaume Dalzil : Marie Johanne, the great book on Essenian and Egyptian therapies is in direct connection with the training course you initiated a few years ago.   How did your experience as a teacher influence the book?  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : I don’t think my experience as a teacher was relevant in writing the book. What was important was my knowledge of the therapies and above all my collaboration with Daniel and the fact that our views on the therapies with the Christ Energy harmonized perfectly. This is what made it possible to co-write this book and to agree on all the subtle and physical details of this book.  Guillaume Dalzil :  Daniel, what kind of development do you hope for in those who are using your book?  Daniel Meurois :  My wish, and I am sure I can also speak for Marie-Johanne, is that this book will contribute to the expansion of the heart of those who really want to be better human beings, to make life more beautiful and to improve their health. In this sense, I think that the teachings in this book go way beyond the sole practice of the therapies. I think we are heading towards an extraordinary expansion of the heart; at least, this is where I would like my readers to go. Everything else is secondary.  When something changes in our hearts, it also changes everywhere else. Our consciousness loses its veils and we open our minds to something new.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  In order to expand our hearts, we need compassion and not just empathy. Compassion means loving others like another self. We must try to achieve unity on a collective level. Separation is what our planet is suffering from. I think this book on therapies really shows how to accept others. It is like a cocoon of love. At least that’s how we’ve wanted it to be.  Daniel Meurois : At any rate, this is what we wanted to achieve and I have the feeling that’s also how our readers receive it.  Our training course is not just a method that has been printed on paper. No one is going to become a therapist by doing a few exercises, and this is not the purpose of this book. It is a basis to work on, but afterwards, it is necessary to learn with a teacher and not just play the sorcerer’s apprentice. It is a tool for transformation and metamorphosis. The image of a cocoon is really good; we enter a cocoon and slowly change from within as we assimilate the data and become permeated by an atmosphere that teaches us to breathe differently to understand the meaning of life.  Guillaume Dalzil : Marie Johanne, how does it feel to be a writer?  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : A writer…?  You don’t feel like a writer because you’ve written one book… I just take things simply and with joy, too; I now have to give interviews, which I don’t like very much… But there will be another book that I am writing alone and that will probably be published at the end of the year, so maybe I’ll be able to tell you then how it feels to be a writer.  Guillaume Dalzil : According to you, Daniel, would it have been possible to publish the great book on Essenian and Egyptian therapies a few years before?  Daniel Meurois :  The book could have been written before, because we have had this information for some time now, but I don’t think the result would have been as precise. We have progressed in this technique, developed a better understanding of the knowledge, and also matured as human beings. I believe that now was the right time to publish this book.  I have always thought that when books, or any other media for that matter, deal very intensely with specific subjects, they don’t just appear by chance. I believe that everything comes when the time is ripe and this also goes for our book. The result would not have been the same if we had written it earlier.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : Besides, the book also contains some new treatments.  Guillaume Dalzil : Marie Johanne, Daniel, are you currently planning other books?  Daniel Meurois :  Yes, both of us are…  Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  As far as I am concerned, my next book will be written solo and will probably be out by the end of the year.  This book deals with the world of elves, but not in the usual way as a legend or a tale. This is a true story I read in the akashic records with the help of our Friends from above. It is the memory of a female air elf who lived 11.000 years ago. This book permits us to access the world of elves and get to know them better through the eyes of one of them.  Daniel Meurois : What makes your work really special is that you penetrate the world of the elves with your consciousness and I think this has never been done before. This is why I think your project is just extraordinary. It will give us the possibility to understand better the forces of nature, where they come from, and how they live.  It is not just a question of satisfying one’s curiosity. I hope it will help us develop a more respectful attitude towards nature, or at least some aspects of nature.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : It is an opening from our world into theirs. I think we have to make a step towards accepting the reality of this world and stop thinking it is only a legend.  Daniel Meurois : As far as I am concerned, I would say that I am working on two books at the same time. It has already happened to me before and it’s not always easy. At the moment, I concentrate more on the first book, which will bear the title “Les 108 paroles du Christ” (“108 Sayings of Christ”). This book is the answer to wishes expressed by a number of readers throughout the years.  It is a selection of 108 quotations out of my 33 books, words that had been spoken by Christ in front of a small circle of disciples. I give a comment on each of these quotations and I interpret them for our current times. All pages on the left will bear the sayings of Christ and on the right my explanations as I understand them today.  This is a book that can be consulted at random as a tool for reflection and for meditation. This is my project for the current year…  My other project began seven to eight months ago and it is probably the most sensitive, difficult and impossible subject I ever dealt with. I won’t say much about it… I will just give you the title I have in mind for the moment. Maybe a lot of persons will find this book extremely presumptuous, but it came to me as a necessity, although I would never have dreamed working on such a formidable task before. The title of the book will just be “L’évangile de Jeshua” (“The Gospel of Jeshua”).  This book is the product of akashic readings. In its form, it may resemble “The Way of the Essenes” and even more “Le Testament des trois Marie” in the way it penetrates the intimacy of a person who lived in that time. It will also be a tremendous task because from what I have already been able to glimpse, I guess the book will have at least 600 pages, maybe even 700.  It is a long-term project and I feel at the same time a little intimidated and incredibly enthusiastic about it.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois : All the same, the work Daniel is doing is phenomenal, because he is going to read the akashic records through the eyes of Master Jeshua himself, and this is quite extraordinary in regard to the experiences and the feelings he is going to witness in this way.  Daniel Meurois : This is why I am very careful and guarded when I speak about it. This is a very difficult work that requires a really great amount of respect and humility and sometimes makes me feel I am walking on a tightrope.  At the same time, as I was saying before, this work may seem incredibly conceited, and it frightens me a little, but sometimes you just have to go ahead and it is obviously what is required of me at the moment.  So that was the work in preparation…  Guillaume Dalzil :  Daniel, you have now been working for more than thirty years towards the opening of the heart and consciousness. Looking back on these three decades, do you think your readers and listeners have evolved?  Daniel Meurois : They have certainly gained maturity. In the 80s, there was a tremendous craze that was felt by a lot of people and made them buy book after book, but then I finally realized that it had just been a trend that got people interested in mysterious things, etc… Today, this is not the case anymore, and people are much more circumspect about what they buy. The public is more mature now and I think there has been a kind of selection among the readers. Of course, there are plenty of books on self-development and spirituality and, alas, quantity does not always mean quality…  Sometimes it’s a disadvantage. But I would say that the outlook of many persons in the public is less the result of a trend than it used to be.  I think that over these last 20 or 30 years, a lot of people have been forced by life to work on themselves and to clear up some concepts in them. I am not saying that everybody has, but I am speaking generally. Yes, something happened in people’s consciousness, maybe in the collective unconscious too, and the result is that we can speak much more freely about some subjects today than 20 or 30 years ago. It is very subtle, but something is changing.  Generally speaking, I am rather optimistic about the outcome of our transformation. Not necessarily in a blissful way about what will happen in the short-term, because I think mankind still has a lot of work to do and a lot of things to understand.  So yes, I am fundamentally optimistic, but we still have to go ahead and have courage, and make a clean sweep of countless preconceived notions that sometimes clutter up our minds and our hearts.  Guillaume Dalzil : Marie Johanne, Daniel thank you very much for this lovely interview.  Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  Thank you!  Daniel Meurois : Thanks to you and all those who listened to this interview with their hearts. Thank you!  Intus Solaris 2014There was actually a strong relation between the knowledge of Moses, who was of Egyptian origin,
and the sensitivity of a faction of the Hebrew people.
All of this happened unofficially, secretly, and in that way, this common knowledge wandered from one land to the other. Over the years, I have been able to receive a large amount of information by telepathy and through readings of the Memory of the Past, and I gathered it with Marie-Johanne’s help into a real body of information that is still likely to grow as she pointed out before.

Personally, I didn’t realize straightaway the importance of this information and it was only after her intervention that I began thinking that it would indeed be a pity to leave it all in a closet. After that, the idea of a book written jointly slowly took shape until we just knew that we had to do it.

Guillaume Dalzil : What about you, Marie Johanne, how did you acquire this knowledge, this know-how? Can you tell us about your experience of this healing method?

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : My experience of this method is rather special. First of all, like Daniel, it is based on readings of the akashic records, and in my case of the memory of Mary Salome or Shlomit, as I mentioned before, but also on Christ’s support. When I treat a patient, I become one with Him, that is to say I establish a triangular, Trinitarian connection between heaven, the patient and the therapist. I have proceeded in this manner ever since I was very small, it is an innate knowledge I have had from birth.

So there is a continuous exchange between heaven, therapist and patient. The energy goes through the heart of the therapist and back to the patient.

When I treat a patient, I become completely oblivious of his or her skin and body becomes like a luminous map where I can see the nadis and the sub-nadis, and I hear inside of me the voice of Master Jeshua who accompanies me through the whole procedure and tells me where to go. Mastering a technique is good, knowing the right gestures too, but above all that, there must be a connection with the Sacred and there must be compassion. Daniel and I insist a lot on that.

When I treat a patient, I am with Master Jeshua. I say this very humbly. He accompanies me through the sessions and I always wait for a sign from Him before removing my hand and going ahead with another gesture. I can see it in His eyes; yes, I can see His eyes and His look tells me when enough energy has been infused and when I can move on to another part of the patient’s body.

This is how I proceed.

Guillaume Dalzil :  According to you, what is the difference between these therapies and other methods of energy healing?

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : The Sacred aspect, the precision of the techniques, the gestures, the connection with energies from above, the solar circulation as we described it in the book, where the energy that is renewed in Heaven flows through the heart of the therapist and back to the patient, and so on and so forth…

We have really emphasized to our students the necessity of acquiring this posture, of learning the art of dancing with both the subtle and the dense matter, because we don’t just work with the subtle matter, we also work on the physical body; I teach them to touch the body because a lot of people are lonely, without love, and suffer from not being touched. Illness is also a lack of love, and that is why we touch the patients a lot.

And I am glad to say that the students have really understood and integrated the Trinitarian and Sacred aspect. It is really touching to watch them performing this dance, because in the beginning, they all said: “But, Marie-Johanne, we’ll never be able to do this dance, to master this art, this sacred aspect. We don’t have the capacity to learn that”. And now look at them, the first group has already yielded therapists and teachers, and all the students of the second group also have the capacity to do it and this makes me really very happy.

Daniel Meurois : Yes, this is what is really amazing with this method, the fact that it combines a great precision in movement with a detailed knowledge of the subtle anatomy of the human body, and at the same time a kind of fluidity that is all-encompassing.

When we teach, we try to show our students how the very precise gestures they are learning should flow together like a dance. It is really amazing. I would say that there is something very graceful in this manner of transmitting the Sacred Energy.

Of course, this method is only one of many. Nowadays, there is a large number of different therapeutic methods. However, I believe that the sacred aspect is really the fundamental characteristic of our method. If the Christ Energy in the broad sense of the term does not inhabit the therapist then nothing will happen. Personally, I think that all great traditions attest to the same Presence that can be called Christ, Buddha, etc… The name does not matter because it is the same Sacred Principle that we must learn to integrate and transmit through our hands. The accuracy of the gestures is extremely important at first, but there comes a time when the therapist transcends the techniques and his moves become much more intuitive. But this requires a lot of practice.

This training course extends over a period of three years at the rate of two intensive sessions per year. However, completing the training course of three years will not necessarily make you a therapist. This requires a lot of practice and is also a question of personal development. Besides, our book and our courses are not only meant for people who want to be therapists… A large number of our readers or students just do this for self-improvement. They want to understand what life is about and learn about the constituents of the light that permeates our reality and causes our hearts to expand.

What is life? What is the movement of life? I would say that about two-thirds of those who become interested in our books or courses are doing it for reasons of self-improvement and it really helps. As a matter of fact, there are two levels in the way we can receive this Tradition today, because knowing how our body works at the subtle level also means learning to live better, having a better understanding of the difficulties of others, and sometimes knowing the right attitude or the gestures that will help us or others.

It is a deep understanding of the subtle laws of life.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  There are no preliminary requirements for attending our training course in Essenian and Egyptian therapies. I rather go by intuition. I always ask for a photograph, look at the eyes and the resume, but especially take into consideration the intention of the heart and the will to open up.

The therapies bring about an inner purification, and our students have all gone through phases of tears, joy or discouragement.

Daniel Meurois : It is a method of self-transformation as well as a method of learning the therapies. The students really experience a personal change and this is really noticeable on those who complete the three years of training. They are not the same as when they started the course and it even shows physically on the photos.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : Yes it does…

Daniel Meurois : A transformation takes place in those who take the training seriously and do not content themselves with taking notes on the correct position of the hands. Of course, this is a necessary phase too, but I would say it is quite insignificant compared to all else that happens.

We also need to point out that we are currently in the process of passing on the torch as teachers of this method.

After completion of the current training course in the spring of 2014, we are going to withdraw from teaching, at least in France and in Europe. We will set up a new training course in Quebec, but as far as the European continent is concerned, we are going to delegate the task to some of our former students who were among the best and whom we trust entirely.

Prospective students in Europe should not expect to be taught by us directly. Teachers who have been trained by us personally and who have earned our trust will offer the courses.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : And nothing prevents the residents of Europe who are interested in this method from coming to Quebec to learn with us…

Daniel Meurois : Yes, we already have some prospective students willing to cross the Atlantic.

Guillaume Dalzil :  Daniel, can you tell us about the challenges you faced and the values you wanted to prioritize when writing this book? Was it an adventure?  

Daniel Meurois :  Writing a book is always an adventure, because you know the starting point and where you want to go, at least approximately, but you never know how you are going to get there.

As far as I am concerned, the greatest challenge in writing this book was clarity. I wanted to be as clear as possible in view of the fact that the method Marie-Johanne and I have been trying to explain is very precise and relatively complex technically speaking.

The real challenge has been to clarify the explanatory text and then to conceive the illustrations. For that, we first had to work on a living model, and take photos with the correct position of the hands etc… After that, we asked an illustrator to translate what was expressed in each photograph and then to add symbols, points of reference, arrows, circles, numbers, etc… We wanted the drawings to illustrate the text as precisely as possible. We really had a tremendous amount of work during approximately one year, so much so that this is really what I’ll remember this book by. We wanted everything to be perfect.

Of course, it is always possible to do better, but we set high standards right from the beginning and insisted on large drawings in close relation to the explanations. The technical part of the book was the most complex, but at the same time, we didn’t want the reader to lose sight of the sacred and metaphysical aspect.

For this purpose, we selected a number of quotations from my other books to match the therapies and the illustrations, and to set them in the philosophical and historical context.

We also endeavored to give the reader a clear perception of the concepts developed in this book. I am speaking of the whole metaphysical part and the information on the subtle constitution of the human body, in other words all the preliminary notions which had to be developed prior to explaining the method itself.

For this reason, writing this book was like giving birth, with all the labor involved. I think our readers understand this. At least, the book has met with considerable interest so far. After all the work we have put in it, it is a great reward for us when our readers tell us that they consider it a very useful working tool that is also pleasant to consult.

This book is very special to me among all the other books I have written. It is also Marie-Johanne’s first book and I think it was a marking experience for her, because writing a book together and giving birth to a working tool is really an adventure. It is no little matter, it isn’t just storytelling. We provide a working tool and there is real satisfaction in doing this.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  There is one thing Daniel has forgotten to mention. Among our students, we have physicians, psychotherapists, physiotherapists, and osteopaths. One of them, Dr Marc Medvesek, helped us define clearly the different pathologies and explain the indications for the different therapies and all the references to organs.

I think the result is perfect.

Daniel Meurois : Yes, it really is. Besides, we also wanted to show both our readers and our students that we don’t think that any type of medicine or therapy should exclude other methods.

As far as we are concerned, as teachers of this particular method we would never advise anyone against consulting a physician practicing traditional western medicine. In our opinion, it would be best for patients who opt for this type of therapy to be at the same time under the care of a qualified physician in allopathic or homeopathic medicine. There should always be a medical supervision because we should not take ourselves for what we are not. We are not physicians; we just practice a wonderful method that has been offered to us and it is our wish that our work should be examined and supervised by a qualified physician. There are more and more physicians, physiotherapists and psychologists today who are interested in this type of therapy.

I think the medicine of the future should be able to embrace all the different therapeutic approaches to the human body.

Anyway, we wanted to stress this point because this is surely not about saying we have the one and only solution. No, this is a wonderful therapeutic approach but it does not exclude any other form of therapy.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : We are not miracle workers.

Daniel Meurois : We are not miracle workers. However, we teach a very beautiful method to help human beings improve their health, understand the purpose of their illnesses, and find out what they are made of.

Guillaume Dalzil :  Do you think it is important that the knowledge you have been entrusted with should be disseminated as widely as possible?

Daniel Meurois : Yes, I think so because it is not only a matter of spreading a specific knowledge, but also of a change in consciousness. When we tackle concepts such as those developed in our book on Essenian and Egyptian therapies, we start seeing the world differently. This new perspective does a bit of tidying up in our heads regarding a lot of things we have learned, regarding the pollution caused by our emotions, regarding the rigidity of our outlook. This is why we think it is important to disseminate this information as widely as possible because it contributes to the current mutation towards another level of consciousness that we need so badly in our world.

In this way, it is a therapeutic tool, but also, as we were saying a moment ago, an instrument for global transformation that enables us to look at life differently.

This is what we need most today. This will help overcome our inner barriers.

Guillaume Dalzil : Daniel, do you not fear the dissemination of this knowledge will bring about pitfalls?

Daniel Meurois :  There are always pitfalls…

As soon as you do something, you always have the pros and the cons. Of course, when you publish a book containing precise information on a therapeutic method like this one, there is always a risk that someone is going to play the therapist apprentice on the basis of this information.

I think this cannot be avoided. When you reflect on certain things, when you publish certain information, there will always be a number of people who will try it out without being properly focused, without having the necessary skills. There are always two sides to the coin.

This is also why it had become important, even urgent, to clarify all this information, all the more so since we noticed over the years that a number of things people were saying about this or similar methods were wrong.

We thought it was important to clarify everything. And even if there are some people who “play a little”, who pretend to work as therapists without having the necessary experience, at least this method is not harmful and there are no risks involved except the risk of being entirely ineffective.

But these people will be sorted out eventually. You really have to be inhabited by this spirit for something to happen.

Either you are called to be a therapist or it will just be a flash in the pan. In any case, these therapies cannot do any harm.

Guillaume Dalzil : Marie Johanne, the great book on Essenian and Egyptian therapies is in direct connection with the training course you initiated a few years ago. 

How did your experience as a teacher influence the book?

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : I don’t think my experience as a teacher was relevant in writing the book. What was important was my knowledge of the therapies and above all my collaboration with Daniel and the fact that our views on the therapies with the Christ Energy harmonized perfectly. This is what made it possible to co-write this book and to agree on all the subtle and physical details of this book.

Guillaume Dalzil :  Daniel, what kind of development do you hope for in those who are using your book?

Daniel Meurois :  My wish, and I am sure I can also speak for Marie-Johanne, is that this book will contribute to the expansion of the heart of those who really want to be better human beings, to make life more beautiful and to improve their health. In this sense, I think that the teachings in this book go way beyond the sole practice of the therapies. I think we are heading towards an extraordinary expansion of the heart; at least, this is where I would like my readers to go. Everything else is secondary.

When something changes in our hearts, it also changes everywhere else. Our consciousness loses its veils and we open our minds to something new.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  In order to expand our hearts, we need compassion and not just empathy. Compassion means loving others like another self. We must try to achieve unity on a collective level. Separation is what our planet is suffering from. I think this book on therapies really shows how to accept others. It is like a cocoon of love. At least that’s how we’ve wanted it to be.

Daniel Meurois : At any rate, this is what we wanted to achieve and I have the feeling that’s also how our readers receive it.

Our training course is not just a method that has been printed on paper. No one is going to become a therapist by doing a few exercises, and this is not the purpose of this book. It is a basis to work on, but afterwards, it is necessary to learn with a teacher and not just play the sorcerer’s apprentice. It is a tool for transformation and metamorphosis. The image of a cocoon is really good; we enter a cocoon and slowly change from within as we assimilate the data and become permeated by an atmosphere that teaches us to breathe differently to understand the meaning of life.

Guillaume Dalzil : Marie Johanne, how does it feel to be a writer?

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : A writer…?

You don’t feel like a writer because you’ve written one book… I just take things simply and with joy, too; I now have to give interviews, which I don’t like very much… But there will be another book that I am writing alone and that will probably be published at the end of the year, so maybe I’ll be able to tell you then how it feels to be a writer.

Guillaume Dalzil : According to you, Daniel, would it have been possible to publish the great book on Essenian and Egyptian therapies a few years before?

Daniel Meurois :  The book could have been written before, because we have had this information for some time now, but I don’t think the result would have been as precise. We have progressed in this technique, developed a better understanding of the knowledge, and also matured as human beings. I believe that now was the right time to publish this book.

I have always thought that when books, or any other media for that matter, deal very intensely with specific subjects, they don’t just appear by chance. I believe that everything comes when the time is ripe and this also goes for our book. The result would not have been the same if we had written it earlier.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : Besides, the book also contains some new treatments.

Guillaume Dalzil : Marie Johanne, Daniel, are you currently planning other books?

Daniel Meurois :  Yes, both of us are…

Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  As far as I am concerned, my next book will be written solo and will probably be out by the end of the year.

This book deals with the world of elves, but not in the usual way as a legend or a tale. This is a true story I read in the akashic records with the help of our Friends from above. It is the memory of a female air elf who lived 11.000 years ago. This book permits us to access the world of elves and get to know them better through the eyes of one of them.

Daniel Meurois : What makes your work really special is that you penetrate the world of the elves with your consciousness and I think this has never been done before. This is why I think your project is just extraordinary. It will give us the possibility to understand better the forces of nature, where they come from, and how they live.

It is not just a question of satisfying one’s curiosity. I hope it will help us develop a more respectful attitude towards nature, or at least some aspects of nature.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : It is an opening from our world into theirs. I think we have to make a step towards accepting the reality of this world and stop thinking it is only a legend.

Daniel Meurois : As far as I am concerned, I would say that I am working on two books at the same time. It has already happened to me before and it’s not always easy. At the moment, I concentrate more on the first book, which will bear the title “Les 108 paroles du Christ” (“108 Sayings of Christ”). This book is the answer to wishes expressed by a number of readers throughout the years.

It is a selection of 108 quotations out of my 33 books, words that had been spoken by Christ in front of a small circle of disciples. I give a comment on each of these quotations and I interpret them for our current times. All pages on the left will bear the sayings of Christ and on the right my explanations as I understand them today.

This is a book that can be consulted at random as a tool for reflection and for meditation. This is my project for the current year…

My other project began seven to eight months ago and it is probably the most sensitive, difficult and impossible subject I ever dealt with. I won’t say much about it… I will just give you the title I have in mind for the moment. Maybe a lot of persons will find this book extremely presumptuous, but it came to me as a necessity, although I would never have dreamed working on such a formidable task before. The title of the book will just be “L’évangile de Jeshua” (“The Gospel of Jeshua”).

This book is the product of akashic readings. In its form, it may resemble “The Way of the Essenes” and even more “Le Testament des trois Marie” in the way it penetrates the intimacy of a person who lived in that time. It will also be a tremendous task because from what I have already been able to glimpse, I guess the book will have at least 600 pages, maybe even 700.

It is a long-term project and I feel at the same time a little intimidated and incredibly enthusiastic about it.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois : All the same, the work Daniel is doing is phenomenal, because he is going to read the akashic records through the eyes of Master Jeshua himself, and this is quite extraordinary in regard to the experiences and the feelings he is going to witness in this way.

Daniel Meurois : This is why I am very careful and guarded when I speak about it. This is a very difficult work that requires a really great amount of respect and humility and sometimes makes me feel I am walking on a tightrope.

At the same time, as I was saying before, this work may seem incredibly conceited, and it frightens me a little, but sometimes you just have to go ahead and it is obviously what is required of me at the moment.

So that was the work in preparation…

Guillaume Dalzil :  Daniel, you have now been working for more than thirty years towards the opening of the heart and consciousness. Looking back on these three decades, do you think your readers and listeners have evolved?

Daniel Meurois : They have certainly gained maturity. In the 80s, there was a tremendous craze that was felt by a lot of people and made them buy book after book, but then I finally realized that it had just been a trend that got people interested in mysterious things, etc… Today, this is not the case anymore, and people are much more circumspect about what they buy. The public is more mature now and I think there has been a kind of selection among the readers. Of course, there are plenty of books on self-development and spirituality and, alas, quantity does not always mean quality…

Sometimes it’s a disadvantage. But I would say that the outlook of many persons in the public is less the result of a trend than it used to be.

I think that over these last 20 or 30 years, a lot of people have been forced by life to work on themselves and to clear up some concepts in them. I am not saying that everybody has, but I am speaking generally. Yes, something happened in people’s consciousness, maybe in the collective unconscious too, and the result is that we can speak much more freely about some subjects today than 20 or 30 years ago. It is very subtle, but something is changing.

Generally speaking, I am rather optimistic about the outcome of our transformation. Not necessarily in a blissful way about what will happen in the short-term, because I think mankind still has a lot of work to do and a lot of things to understand.

So yes, I am fundamentally optimistic, but we still have to go ahead and have courage, and make a clean sweep of countless preconceived notions that sometimes clutter up our minds and our hearts.

Guillaume Dalzil : Marie Johanne, Daniel thank you very much for this lovely interview.

Marie Johanne C.Meurois :  Thank you!

Daniel Meurois : Thanks to you and all those who listened to this interview with their hearts. Thank you!

Intus Solaris 2014

Interview on Essenian and Egyptian Therapies

Interview on Essenian and Egyptian Therapies

In an exceptional interview, Marie Johanne Croteau and Daniel Meurois speak freely and abundantly about their common book, “The Great Book of Essenian and Egyptian Therapies”, and about their training courses in France and Quebec. Guillaume Dalzil : Daniel Meurois,...
Giving birth to a new world

Giving birth to a new world

Transcript of the interview of Daniel Meurois by Pierre Abraham  in “Conversation Papillon”, 9 September 2010. Pierre Abraham: Daniel Meurois, people have been talking about the Essenes ever since the discovery of the first Dead Sea Scrolls; but who were the Essenes...
Sacrée Planète

Egyptian-Essenian Therapies for the magazine “Sacrée Planète”

An interview with Marie Johanne Croteau-Meurois and Daniel Meurois for the magazine “Sacrée Planète”   The tradition of energetic healing known under the general label “Essenian therapies” was also known in ancient Egypt. Could it date even further back? Can you tell...
Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void

Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void…

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Who were the Essenes

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Giving birth to a new world

Giving birth to a new world

Transcript of the interview of Daniel Meurois by Pierre Abraham  in “Conversation Papillon”, 9 September 2010.

Giving birth to a new world

Pierre Abraham: Daniel Meurois, people have been talking about the Essenes ever since the discovery of the first Dead Sea Scrolls; but who were the Essenes actually? 

Daniel Meurois: First of all, we should clarify from which standpoint we are looking at the question, because there are actually two ways to answer it. We have the standpoint we can call official, the standpoint of the historians, archeologists and theologians.

Then, we have the standpoint of the mystics. As you probably guessed, I belong to the latter.

To begin with, let us briefly cover the first standpoint…

The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947 near the Qumrân monastery in Israel extended over a period of five to six years, I believe, until 1956.

Nearly 900 scrolls were brought to light in the process. These manuscripts testify of the existence, 2000 years or more ago, of a very strict monastic community considered today as having been a sect within Judaism. It was a group of ascetics, monks and hermits living in seclusion from the world in the desert of Judea on the shores of the Dead Sea. This is the official point of view, and also what can be found in some rare documents written by the historian Flavius Josephus. He was the first and maybe the only one to mention the Essenes in the written texts of his time.

Who were the EssenesThe origin of the Dead Sea Scrolls dates back between the second and third century before Christ and extends to approximately the middle of the first century A.D.

Let us now talk about the other standpoint, which is mine, the standpoint of the mystic. I indeed call myself a mystic in view of the fact that I have been inwardly experiencing a specific perception of the Essenes for about thirty years now. This experience is based on what is called akashic readings. The akashic records constitute the Memory of Time. I take it that my readers know about it, so I will not explain this notion further today. I will only add that it is my working tool, which has allowed me for the last three decades to “read”, in the form of extremely precise and repeated visions, certain events of past history, and more specifically of life in the Essenian Communities two millennia ago.

Those who have the capacity of looking up information in Time know that there were two different ways of belonging to the Essenian Community. There were of course the Essenes of the monasteries like Qumrân, but the greatest part of the Essenian people lived in small villages mostly situated in Galilea. These villages were based on mutual aid and constituted a real Brotherhood that remained discreetly in the background. The members of this Community used to obey a code of conduct based on very important rules relating to physical, mental, and moral purity. Besides, the notion of possession was alien to the Essenes. In their villages, they used to share everything. It is also important to note that the Essenes were very close to Nature and the natural forces. Everyone had his family and his work, and labored fervently in full respect of the sacred aspect of life, while also obeying the general traditions of Judaism, of which they considered themselves “non-standard” members.

The lifestyle of the Essenes of the villages was, I repeat, very different from that of the Qumrân monks, who were known for their extreme rigidity. The latter were exceedingly intransigent ascetics who abode the code of conduct from the Book of Leviticus, famous for its numerous interdictions and obligations. These monks were – it has to be said – rather intolerant. I am more interested in the Essenes of the village communities.

However, I must add that the ideal of these communities living in families was also represented in the Krmel monastery, a huge construction situated on the heights of the present-day city of Haifa. Unfortunately, there are no remains of it left. A Baha’i temple was built in its location. Within these walls were instructed the most psychically gifted children of the whole Essenian Brotherhood. This monastery was a very famous school dating back to the Egyptian Tradition of Amenophis III, Akhenaton’s father.

The Akashic Records confirm that there was a very direct connection between the mystics of ancient Egypt at the time of Akhenaton and the Essenian mystics. This connection is fascinating. It revolves around a tradition the origin of which was lost in the mists of Time, a tradition which was passed on orally between the initiates. This is what my books are essentially about. Why?  Because I believe that the heirs of this Essenian tradition, with their sensitivity and their perception of the Sacred, are closest to us today.

P.A.: You are indeed known for having written several books on the Essenes and the role of their Brotherhood. But how did you first become interested in this subject? 

DM: Well, I already mentioned it a few moments ago when I explained briefly my working method: akashic readings. So here is a short summary of how it works for those who don’t yet know what it is…

Thirty years or so ago, I discovered the phenomenon of out-of-body experience and consequently the capacity of the consciousness to travel outside of the physical body. I will not get into the details of what is commonly known as “astral journeys”, this would take too long… Maybe it could be the subject of another interview.

However, I mention the fact because it is in this state of exteriorization of the soul outside of my physical body that I can connect to what is called the Memory of Time. This Memory is accessible on a sort of wave length or vibratory frequency. Everything experienced or felt by a consciousness is systematically recorded in it. One could say that the “Memory of Time” is analogue to an incredible and gigantic natural “hard disk” on which is stored every single event happening in a life.

When a soul – or a consciousness, if you prefer – discovers through self-improvement its capacity to connect itself to this wave length, it is then able to penetrate the Akashic Records and read the film of the past.

Personally, I discovered this working method completely unintentionally, thirty years ago.

One of the consequences of this fundamental experience has been for me to accept the reality of reincarnation. I then understood clearly that I had once lived in the midst of an Essenian community at the time of Christ. This is how I came to investigate intensely a certain period of the past and bring back some extremely precise notions.

Today, I can say that I lived among the Essenes two thousand years ago and that the memories I can access on a regular basis are a continual source of information concerning this period. I am therefore writing and testifying out of my own experience, and this is why there are a number of issues concerning the person and time of Jesus on which I differ with the Christian church. It is clear to me that Jesus was of Essenian origin and the heir of a very old tradition.

With this in mind, I am increasingly aware of the strong distortion that exists between the dogma laid down by the vast majority of theologians and historians and what really happened in Palestine two millennia ago…

P.A.: You have written some thirty books to date…  Have most of them been inspired by the Essenes or only some of them? 

D.M.: Only a few… One thing is sure, my work is not restricted to researching traces of the Essenes and the true face of Christ in Time… However, the sensitivity which this quest awoke in me has an undeniable influence on all of my work. This is unavoidable. You cannot remain unmoved by such an intensive experience and move on to another topic of reflection and testimony, just because this one has already been “explored”…  No, I don’t think that the evangelical times, the person of Master Jesus and the contribution of the Essenian tradition to our world have yet been explored thoroughly enough. I doubt this can ever be the case. With my outlook on the origin of our present era and of Christianity, I am just trying to meet the need for hope in a time when we seem to be losing all our values. A true ideal of life and hope is what most of us lack today.

P.A.: Can you tell us about the way of life of the Essenes of the villages and explain in which way they differed from the others? 

DM: The Essenes of the village communities were very different from the Qumrân Essenes, even if they also led a rigorous life governed by strict rules. On the whole, they led a life in accordance with the Jewish tradition of their time, but at the same time, they lived marginally because they were more open-minded and flexible due to their constant connection with the forces of Nature.

We know that Judaism is a religion characterized by a number of rather rigid principles requiring the observance of many laws. All this was respected in the Essenian villages, but the inhabitants felt totally apart inasmuch as they used to speak much more freely of a number of subjects. They had far less taboos between them than the rest of the Jewish people who tried to obey the law to the letter.

However, all this and the fact that Master Jesus grew up among them does not mean that the Essenes were all initiates as we understand it in the so-called spiritual circles. You know, they tend to be a little too idealized today. They are often described as some kind of absolute initiates in various books written about them.

P.A.: It was not so? 

D.M: There were of course some great initiates among them, real Masters of Wisdom, but, to the risk of disappointing a few, I would say that most Essenes were just people trying to put into practice a way of life based on purity of conscience and moral purity above all things, and where they learned to share and to give. Some of them used to learn what they called the “milky voice”, meaning the art of speaking softly and flowingly. But this does not necessarily mean they were perfect! You must understand that it was not enough to be an Essene to claim being a Master of Wisdom or an initiate.

Most of the Essenes from the villages were simple illiterate people who, like everyone else, could also express anger and frustration, etc. Of course, they were a fascinating community because they were much more open-minded than the average at the time, but, I say it again, they should not be idealized to the extreme.

P.A.: Can you tell us something of the other communities of that time? 

D.M.: First of all, let us clarify that the term “Essene” was not commonly used at the time. Most of the time, the Essenes were mistaken for Nazarites and Nazarenes, who were mystics known for their white robes, long hair and beard, and also for some rituals.

So when the Essenes came to a place, they were mostly taken for Nazarenes or Nazarites. As a matter of fact, they were extremely discreet. The main difference between them and the Nazarenes or Nazarites was their practice of healing therapies. They were very interested in plants and liniments and in what we call today “energetic therapies”. Maybe we can talk about this later. The Brotherhood as such was relatively unknown, but people knew that healers were trained in its midst.

At the same time, the Essenes were rather feared by the rest of their contemporaries, who were under the impression that they worked with what they called magic, meaning the energetic laws… and the general feeling was that their practices were not always very “clear”.

Of course, this wasn’t true, but let us say it increased their tendency to set themselves apart, excessively sometimes. Many among them undeniably felt that they belonged to an elite.

Despite all this, there was a kind of fluidity between the small Essenian communities and the rest of the people. There was a flow and it used to work well, but nevertheless… the Essenes were still considered different. People used to appreciate their healing skills and fear them a little at the same time.

P.A.: Because of their tendency to elitism? 

D.M.: Many among them obviously considered themselves an elite. People didn’t automatically see them as such, but they were puzzled and sometimes worried by their marginality and this set them apart from the others, with everything that it entails.

P.A.: Can we say despite all this that they were initiates for their time and their environment? 

D.M.: Well, we would have to define first what an initiate is…

P.A.: That was going to be my next question. 

D.M.: You can say that an initiate is a person on the path, on a conscious and voluntary quest for Wisdom. This Wisdom implies extensive knowledge of the energetic laws of our universe enabling the soul and the heart to flourish. This Wisdom also means a certain familiarity with the subtle anatomy of the human body and enables contact with non-earthly forms of life.

There were quite a lot of persons of this caliber in the Essenian community, but – I repeat – it is important not to generalize. They were still a minority among their minority.

Most of the time, the most gifted and mystical Essenes used to go to the Krmel monastery where they were subjected to an extremely exacting discipline in order to develop their psychic capacities and put them to the service of others.

Their goal was the expansion of consciousness. Those who had it were said to be bearers and transmitters of Knowledge. In this sense, it is quite clear that not all Essenes, in spite of their specificities, were to be considered initiates, far from it. They were usually called Brothers in white or Brothers with the milky voice.

P.A.: They say Jesus was one of them. You have also said so yourself… But were the apostles Essenes, too? What is your opinion?

D.M.: As a matter of fact, my opinion… is not an opinion! It is an experience. As far as I am concerned, I cannot say “I believe that…” or “I think that…”, because a belief has no great value in my eyes if it is not supported by experience. Although it may seem a bit presumptuous, I can confirm from my own experience that Jesus was indeed born into an Essenian family. He spent his early childhood with his family and then went to the Krmel monastery to be instructed. There, he received the complete basic teaching reserved to those who were considered Essenian initiates. Of course, the instruction he received was very special and adapted to the exceptional being that he was. You can say that within the walls of Krmel, the child Jesus learned to be the Master he was going to become before being fully inhabited by the Presence of Christ.

In this sense, he achieved the full realization of the Essenian ideal… Needless to say, the expansion of heart and consciousness which was manifest in him went way beyond that.

Personally, on the basis of my own memories through the Akashic Records, I cannot just speak of Jesus as the greatest Essenian Master. This would not do justice to the truth.

One can easily understand that he acquired a fully different dimension after being filled with the Spirit of Christ. At that moment, the basic principles of Essenism just exploded – if I may use this term – in him. They disintegrated entirely because they were far too restrictive. I think this is easy to understand…

Christ was not an Essene, he manifested himself in the body of an Essene, the body of Master Jesus; this is something else altogether.

As I was saying before, the Essenes had their limits. They were open-minded, but still not able to transcend some cultural aspects. Their main task has been preparing Jesus to be filled with the consciousness of Christ. They were best suited for this work involving the physical body and the soul.

However, after Master Jesus was filled with the Power of Christ, the truth is that he was not particularly well accepted by all of the Essenian community. Except for a few high authorities, the Essenes just saw in him a rabbi taking himself for someone much greater than he actually was. Why? Because in the messianic context of that time, Jesus, filled with Christ, through his word and his way of life, was the equivalent of a real revolution, not only for Judaism, but also for the Essenian communities and all of mankind.

They could not accept it, and neither could the rest of the people and especially the religious leaders. It disturbed everything! When the scriptures say –in Matthew’s Gospel, I believe – that Christ was forcibly driven away with stones and that people tried to throw him into a ravine, you have to understand that this happened in an Essenian village… So, this means that he was expelled “manu militari” by the “meek Essenes”. This example shows how much he had pushed the

boundaries of Essenism. The expansion of his heart and his unfathomable dimension could not be content with the sole observation of Essenian principles, however beautiful they may have been.

As much as Jesus the Master was an Essene, Christ was Christ, in other words universal. In the same way, it is clear that Buddha was not a Buddhist, he was Buddha, that’s all.

P.A.: Now what about the apostles?

D.M.: A large number of persons who read me and write to me are under the impression that Christ had necessarily… collected, chosen the apostles – or rather his disciples – out of the Essenian community. That’s not at all how it happened! There were of course a few Essenes around him, among them Simon, the person I incarnated two thousand years ago and whose life I have outlined in my book “The Way of the Essenes”; but they were a minority.

John the Baptist, as a cousin of Jesus, was from the same Essenian community as he was, but he cannot be counted among the disciples. Most of the official and non-official apostles were not Essenian at all. They were common folk. It is easy to understand why… The Essenes were too marginalized to be close to the people and credible in their eyes. Inasmuch as Master Jesus, filled with the Spirit of Christ, wanted to reach every one, it was logical that he should not choose his disciples among the members of a marginalized community.

When we read the Gospel or listen to priests, we may get the impression that Jesus chose specific persons from the crowd, saying something like “Come to me, you shall be my disciple…” Maybe I am oversimplifying, but in a way, this is what people tend to believe. Well, there may have been a few persons he specifically picked out, but most of all, there were men and women who spontaneously came to him and gathered around him because they had been attracted by the speech and radiance of the Master… but that did not make them Essenes!  Finally, one should also realize that the number of disciples was constantly changing.

The official history of Christianity has set their number at twelve but this figure has a purely symbolic value. At the time, the disciples never knew that they were going to be reduced to “twelve apostles”. There were several circles of disciples and in each one of them, there have been disciples who abandoned their quest. Some of them came back after a while. Actually, it was comparable to the situation today around a particularly radiant person. Friends come and go, disciples came and went.

All this was very fluctuating and extremely lively, but, to come back to the question, one cannot say that the Essenes had infiltrated the group of the followers of Christ; not at all!

P.A.: But, by the way, what happened to the Essenes after Christ’s passing away? 

D.M.: From the historical point of view… not much! They died out rapidly. After all, the movement counted only few men and women. It was a small community, maybe one to one and a half thousand persons in the whole country, split up into very small villages and monasteries which did not count that many souls either.

You know that the Roman Empire had spread across the whole of Palestine two thousand years ago. There had been extremely violent confrontations and the Essenes had finally made common cause with the Zealots. The latter were the Resistance fighters of that time against the Roman army. In the year 66 A.D., the Essenes, fully caught up in messianic fever, sought shelter at their side in the fortress of Masada, on an imposing rocky plateau facing the Dead Sea. There, they withstood together for days on end the siege of the Roman legion, but they ended up being slaughtered.

After the fall of Jerusalem in the year 70, nothing more was heard from the Essenes. At that time, they seem to have vanished into thin air. The community probably broke up entirely, just like the Zealot movement. As you can see, the Essenian Brotherhood has had a relatively short life in History, at least as a structured community.

P.A.: How many years are we speaking of? 

D.M.: About three to four hundred years. Not more than that.

P.A.: That’s not much! 

D.M.: Yes it’s true. However, their knowledge continued to circulate underground across the Middle East and in the West. It has inspired some initiatory schools that still exist today. I am thinking for instance of organizations related to the Rosicrucians.

There is an obvious connection, even if it does not stop there.

I would like to point out that a number of Essenes at heart, a number of persons of Essenian sensitivity were reincarnated among the Cathars. The mental attitude of the Cathars, some of their disciplines and their asceticism, too, strongly remind of the Essenes.

The most amazing is what happened at the end of Catharism… Everybody knows how the Cathar movement was crushed after the fall of Montségur. This fortress, besieged by the army of the King of France, sheltered a group of Cathars assisted by – and this is less known – a few Templars. All of them ended up being slaughtered or burned at the stake.

What had happened in Masada about one thousand two hundred years before? There was a fortress, too. The Essenes (future Cathars?) had sought shelter there and made common cause with the Zealots, who were men at arms just like the Templars later.  Both ended up in practically the same way: the Essenes and the Zealots chose to commit suicide rather than surrender to the Romans and the last survivors set themselves on fire while two or three furtively escaped at the back of the fortress, foreshadowing what was going to happen in Montségur.

Of course, the Cathars did not commit suicide, but their desperate resistance was equivalent to a programmed death. Though they did not set themselves on fire, they still perished by fire after their castle fell into the hands of the royal army. This is history repeating itself… This analogy has always fascinated me. Be that as it may, the Essenes were never heard of anymore after that, at least not as incarnated Brotherhood.

P.A.: Did they meditate? 

D.M.: Yes, they did. Meditation has always been practised in all great initiatory traditions of our world. Yet, they used to pray more than meditate, perhaps. Their prayer consisted in repeating meaningful sounds… what is actually called mantras in the Hindu and Buddhist tradition. The
Essenes had their own mantras. They also practised contemplation.

I have nothing particular to say about this here, but maybe this could be the subject of another book: the restitution, transcription of the meditation methods and Essenian prayers. See, this idea just popped into my head. After saying this, I am sure people are going to tell me “Do it, do it…” Well, I don’t know. If it can be of some use, I will get down to it.

So yes, the Essenes used to meditate. They used to spend a lot of time praying and meditating whether in the Krmel monastery, in Qumràn, or in the small villages. Meditation has never been considered – by those who really know its power – as a way of escaping from the world, but on the contrary as a way of being more alive to the world, of being more oneself in the world, and then of … becoming like an intermediary between the different expressions of life. Someone who meditates is a bridge between the Invisible and the Visible, between Eternity and the illusion of matter.

P.A.: The Essenes are said to be therapists, and you too, Daniel, have said so yourself. For that matter, there is much talk about Essenian therapies nowadays… What about it exactly? 

D.M.: Yes, the Essenes were indeed therapists. This is official… Strictly speaking, they had neither invented a healing method nor collected a variety of therapeutic data, but they had inherited it from the ancient Egyptians… I am speaking of the Egyptians at the time of Amenophis III and Amenophis IV, better known as Akhenaton. They had made it their mission to collect all therapeutic knowledge available at the time; data which had been circulating underground since remote times. Some say since Atlantis, but you could also say since Lemuria, in other words since the beginning of Time as we can humanly fathom. The Egyptians used to reign over the whole of the Mediterranean Basin. They are the ones who built the famous Krmel monastery I was speaking about before in the vicinity of what later became the city of Haifa. One can say that this monastery was known as a major embassy for Egyptian therapeutic and initiatory knowledge on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea. At that time, this land was not yet Palestine where the people of Israel settled down. It was a land under Egyptian domination.

This explains why the Essenes, as spiritual heirs of the Egyptian therapists, have carried on their work in this place. Moses has been the main transmitter of Egyptian knowledge to the Jewish people. After that, the Essenes, who were a very small minority in their midst, found themselves with a large amount of data of essentially therapeutic character. This is why at the time of Christ they were renowned for tending the sick.

They had also organized a real network of health centers, more or less underground or troglodytic, where they used to practise their therapies. In Palestine, they were called bethsaids. Health care was free of charge or based on exchange of services.

The Essenes were known for these care centers – often used as maternity centers for example – and for what I would call the “occult” knowledge of the subtle laws governing the human body. It is on the basis of this reality that the energetic approach of the human body and the corresponding techniques were transmitted to the West.

As far as I am concerned, I discovered all this by myself, not through the Akashic Records in the first place, but via channelings which began in the fall of 1984. My readings in the Akashic Records helped me bring additional details to this knowledge over the years. At that time, in a small village of Périgord, I began receiving and transmitting information on therapies coming from consciousness spheres not belonging to our planet. This information was given by non-terrestrial beings who had already in distant past communicated with the ancient people of our world, in particular with the Egyptians and the Essenes.

The Essenes were men and women who, psychically speaking, were easily in relation with the Invisible. Consequently, they used to receive frequent information and teachings from a non-terrestrial source of cosmic proportions – one could say directly connected to the Divine.

It so happened that in 1984 I was led to reconnect with my past Essenian and Egyptian lives and began receiving information on Essenian – or more exactly Egyptian-Essenian – therapies, two or three times a week in public in front of a small audience of thirty to fifty persons. I personally wrote down this information, it was also sometimes recorded on tape while being transmitted live in front of the public. I have worked in this way in France for about a dozen years with the persons attending the channelings. And so we started to disclose and practise a method of energetic healing based on the messages I was receiving, with all the details and information I had been provided with.

In the end, we had put together a corpus of knowledge to which I added other information provided to me or found in numerous readings of the Akashic Records…

This is how it all started… Today, we have an abundance of information. Of course, over time, other persons have started transmitting this information. They follow the basic method and teach it in their own way.

This is how the “Essenian therapies” have been reinitialized today. When they reappeared through my channelings, they were not yet specifically called “Essenian”; we spoke of universal energetic therapies. We finally called them Essenian by assimilation, because the Essenes were those who practised them best two millennia ago.

Today, I keep on receiving information to enlarge the corpus.

About twenty-five years ago, this research yielded an initiation book known by many: “Les robes de lumière”. A few years later, I wrote “Ainsi soignaient-ils”, and then “Ce qu’Ils m’ont dit”, which sets the information in its original context…

Perhaps there will be a second volume of “Ainsi soignaient-ils” one day… Anyway, this therapeutic tradition is really alive; it represents a universal heritage.

I don’t think anyone can claim authorship of this method, even if I am shocked to discover that some are thinking of patented appellation… Of course, an impulse was necessary for this tradition to reappear.  It has to be said, this was done through me, a few decades ago. This is the naked truth…

Beyond this historical aspect and the fact that this is a method with its own techniques, this approach requires above all things the opening of the heart and consciousness.

You know, I could write two, three or four hundred pages about this energetic healing method, and still that would not make therapists out of my readers. The most important thing with this kind of therapy is love, empathy and compassion for the other. This works in a triangle between the Divine, the patient and the therapist. This triangle activates the flow of a “Force of Consolation in body and soul”. We always return to the principle of Trinity…  Without this flow, without this wave of love flowing in a triangle, well… all techniques of the world are useless, no matter how beautiful, or if they originate in Atlantis, Egypt or Essenism – it always amounts to the same thing in the end. The impulse from the heart, the expansion of the heart are what counts.

In order to emphasize this point, I agreed two years ago to assist my wife Marie-Johanne Croteau in teaching these therapies, which she has also always known. Together, we have initiated in France a training course for a limited number of persons over a period of three years.

This did not come as a sudden idea, but was the result of countless requests I had been receiving. People were continually asking “Mr Meurois, when are you going to start a training course, etc.” For my part, I did not feel called to take up this type of work again, but my wife Marie-Johanne was aware of the urgency and importance of the task. She was undoubtedly right and we finally seriously considered doing it. We thought the time had probably come to take over the transmission of this tradition with the required sensitivity. Marie-Johanne was the one who structured our teaching method in the present training cycle in France. She is therefore the initiator and project manager of this training course.

Neither of us intends to establish a School as such, but let us say that we felt called to teach what we knew about these therapies, because there was obviously far too much information which had not yet been published. I had had this knowledge in me for a long time, but she also carried it in her own memory. You must know that Marie-Johanne, due to her own experience, is in very close connection to her own Essenian memory and the source memory of two thousand years ago. As you can see, it is no coincidence that we ended up finding each other…

In this way, the work goes on and is transmitted under her impulse… We should thank her for that. As I was saying a few moments ago, technique represents only a small part of the whole approach. Our work primarily consists in seeking what is called the Sacred Energy of Healing. It is the art of connecting to the sacred aspect of the human being. The most important is to find again and give the Essence of Life.

We do not train “technicians” who are going to master countless practices, however fascinating they may be. We are working towards awakening, as much as can be hoped for, of course.

So, this is what I can say today about the therapies. Whether they are called Essenian, Egyptian-Essenian, or of Essenian-Egyptian sensitivity, does not really matter. The terminology does not matter because this method is our common heritage and nobody can claim ownership of these therapies. There is just something beautiful and sacred to pass on, and the essence of it speaks for itself. This is what Marie-Johanne Croteau and I are trying to do. The “Essenism” of two thousand years ago had no other purpose either.

P.A.: According to you, is it possible today to live like the Essenes? Is there anything which can bring us closer to them?

D.M.: Theoretically, I would like to say yes… But practically, I do not really believe it can be possible, because two thousand years have gone by and our world is not the same at all. The Essenes used to live under a certain climate, in a wholesome nature and with very little psychic pollution. You know, today we are continuously being polluted by countless things. In our Western societies, we are constantly assaulted – I don’t think this is too strong a term – by a multitude of waves: We always carry our cell phone in our hand, don’t we? Our cell phone, which is also our miniature TV and radio set, isn’t it? It is also our portable computer, we have video games in it; in short, all of this is getting… tyrannical. We are trying to avoid at all costs being a single moment alone with ourselves!

Information flows in from everywhere, we have access to I don’t know how many TV channels. The fact is that we are stressed by an incredible mental and psychic pollution and the result is that we cannot be like we were thousands of years ago anymore. The times when human beings were simple, intuitive and spontaneous are long past.

Moreover, if you consider the particular case of the Essenes, you must understand that they used to eat much less than we do today. Their body was healthier than ours. In the Mediterranean Basin, people know that a certain type of climate is favorable to frugality. We also know that in the past millennia, the physical body was generally much more resistant than today and reacted more strongly to the subtle emanations of Nature.

Whether we want it or not, our body today is saturated with numerous chemical products, with substances which we absorb through the lungs or our food, even if we try to eat as naturally as possible. We should not lure ourselves about this…  Our products are not as healthy as they used to be. No need to insist on this, it is obvious.

Even if modern medicine has saved numerous lives and relieved sufferings, it is also responsible for considerably weakening our immune system… For this reason, we have to use today an infinitely greater armamentarium of energetic therapies to reach the same result as two thousand years ago. The human body is somehow armoured against everything, to its own detriment.

Our society has necessarily moved on and the goal is not to go back in time: “I am going to live like the Essenes… no TV, no car, no phone…” This is quite utopic. Of course, you can create a community and live comfortably with like-minded people and claim to be Essenes. This does not harm anybody, except for the fact that it might bring about a form of elitism which separates you from others. As long as we “esoterize” (forgive me for the term), we will not be able to reach the consciousness of most.

I believe that we must reconnect to the great loving Principle of Life, based on an open exchange, a communion with Nature which does not try to show off, a dialogue with the One which does not necessarily claim to come from some archangel or other.

The basis of Essenism was discreet. Why claim “We are going to be Essenes today”? There is something else to build…  The past is past, even if in absolute terms, Time is an illusion.

Today, we are living in another time and what we probably should do is adapt the best of the Essenian way of thinking, bring it up to date while keeping in mind that the Essenes of two thousand years ago did not live like the Egyptians at the time of Akhenaton, just as those did not live like at the time of Atlantis or Lemuria, etc… Each time period has its own characteristics and we should not dwell in nostalgia.

Let us take from the past what was good and constructive; let us inspire ourselves from it, but why should we recreate it and idealise what was just a phase? This doesn’t seem right to me and it does not fit with what I sense and comprehend of Christ’s thought. Of course, everyone can do as he pleases. Still, there is enough beauty asking to be created without always wanting to go back to the past.

You might say: “But you yourself are always looking at the past through the Akashic Records”. This is true… but not for the sake of the past. By bringing the roots to light, I am trying to extract the elements which can help us progress. Nostalgia is not part of my tools. I can understand the feeling, but it is a sign of flight. Of course, horrible things are happening today, but they were happening in the past too, so let us not idealise the past.

P.A.: You are planning a trip to Israel in April 2011. What can you say about it? What will be special on this journey? 

D.M.: I am not really planning it… Let us say instead that I was asked, together with Marie-Johanne, to accompany a group of persons in Israel in coming April, just like we did last spring in Egypt. It is the same organization, Oasis Voyages, who asked us to think about an itinerary; they will bring in their skills and we ours. This agency is very experienced and provides excellent logistic services. I am going to act as a guide in this context. Marie-Johanne will perform a number of Essenian rituals and I will share my knowledge, my memories on location across Judea, Samaria and Galilea… I will share my experience of the “Essenian time” in order to bring a better understanding of the role of the Essenes and the approach of Master Jesus.

I am going to offer the travellers a very different outlook from that of Christianity as a whole. My approach, our approach will be different. It will inevitably be a heretical outlook, the outlook of two persons with memories of evangelical times, even if this seems a bit pompous at first glance. We will all try to open our hearts for what is going to happen. It will not be a history lesson, but an invitation to refine one’s consciousness. Anyway, this is how we are going to try to live these moments together.

P.A.: To sum it up, what will be different between this journey and the one you made in Egypt? 

D.M.: Well, it will have the same ring of nonconformism to it as the previous journey in Egypt. We will surely digress from the catholic dogma and the doctrines of Christian churches during this visit to the Holy Land. We will cast a different light on some official sites.

Let me give you an example… Even if we, as witnesses from that time, do not necessarily agree with the location of Christ’s tomb as indicated today on the site of the Holy Sepulchre in the heart of Jerusalem, we will still go and visit it, because it nevertheless represents a Holy place, if only because it has been infused with extraordinary faith over the last two thousand years. But, to be true to our quest, we shall also go a bit further, to the place where Jesus was really buried, according to our memory.

Of course, this is only a detail, because it really does not matter whether the events took place here or there, five hundred meters away. What we are going to try and get in touch with on this site, is the essence of the teachings of Christ as He offered it to the people of that time.

Marie-Johanne and I will be there as witnesses… We are calling all those who do not raise any barriers in their hearts, minds or consciousness. That’s all… It is as simple as that, we are going towards joy and we already know that we will all feel the benefits of this journey, right there in the center of our chests!

P.A.: Thank you, Daniel. Finally, can you tell us about your next conference coming November 19 in Quebec, entitled “Life beyond life”? 

D.M.: Yes… It’s a bit off topic, but yes indeed, I am happy to give a conference on the subject of “Life beyond life” on November 19th in Quebec City. The conference will begin at 19:30, I believe, at the Plaza Hotel, Boulevard Laurier.

Why go into such a classic subject? A lot of things have been said and done around the subject of death… But in spite of the numerous books and conferences about the subject, many persons come to me with urgent and often anxious questions. They are always the same concerns, fears and fundamental existential or spiritual questions.

I realize that a lot of things have yet to be said on the subject of death, or a lot of things have been wrongly said or misunderstood. I would like to use everything I tried to explain in my last book “Il y a de nombreuses demeures” in the context of death, because if there is a lot of talk about care for the dying, about the instant of separation, about what happens – technically speaking – at the instant of death, people seldom talk – or talk very vaguely – of life after death, of what we will be doing there.

What are exactly the mansions of the soul? What are these worlds our soul visits, goes through in what we globally call the “Hereafter”? This is what I want to talk about… not just to inform people, but to defuse their fears and help them understand better the meaning of our lives on Earth.

It is a fact that we are generally afraid and anxious when we don’t understand, when we don’t know…  The answers are often extremely simple… So I will try to share my experience on this subject with new information, a different outlook… Above all, I would like to impart inner strength to the persons who need it…

Giving birth to a new world

Giving birth to a new world

Transcript of the interview of Daniel Meurois by Pierre Abraham  in “Conversation Papillon”, 9 September 2010. Pierre Abraham: Daniel Meurois, people have been talking about the Essenes ever since the discovery of the first Dead Sea Scrolls; but who were the Essenes...
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Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void…

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Who were the Essenes?

Transcript of the interview of Daniel Meurois by Pierre Abraham  in “Conversation Papillon”, 9 September 2010.   Pierre Abraham: Daniel Meurois, people have been talking about the Essenes ever since the discovery of the first Dead Sea Scrolls; but who were the Essenes...

Essenian and Egyptian Therapies

The real method and resurgence of the Egyptian-Essenian therapies by Daniel Meurois and Marie Johanne Croteau-Meurois.This healing method is based on the knowledge of the Essenes and Egyptians and transmitted in the spirit of the holistic tradition by Marie-Johanne...
Egyptian-Essenian Therapies for the magazine “Sacrée Planète”

Egyptian-Essenian Therapies for the magazine “Sacrée Planète”

An interview with Marie Johanne Croteau-Meurois and Daniel Meurois for the magazine “Sacrée Planète”

 

The tradition of energetic healing known under the general label “Essenian therapies” was also known in ancient Egypt. Could it date even further back? Can you tell us about its true origin? Is Atlantis a possibility?

Daniel Meurois: As a matter of fact, this is an ageless tradition.

Since it is based on in-depth knowledge of the circuits of universal life energy in the broadest sense of the word – meaning cosmic and timeless – it is practically impossible to speak of its origins. Atlantis is only a phase in its history. It’s no use speaking about it.

One thing is sure: this tradition is not just “terrestrial”. What I mean is that it travelled from one world to the other. Of course, each type of humanity and people it went through has also given it a personal touch, that’s only logical. Besides, that’s also what makes it so rich.

Actually, healing with the hands in accordance with the subtle anatomy of the body is an innate reflex in any person who is aware of the existence of the soul. Most of the time, the education received from the earliest childhood makes people turn away from this kind of relationship to other persons with their illnesses and sufferings. Without a doubt, what I call the Egyptian-Essenian tradition has developed over the ages and throughout the worlds by means of observation and experimentation. These were intuitive at first, and were structured later on under a consistent system clearly showing the existence of a subtle architecture of the human body and consequently its connection with the Divine.

What roles did Aménophis III and Akhenaten play in the spreading of this tradition?

D.M.: These two pharaohs have been the main enlightened and methodical compilers of this corpus of data. For the West and in the current cycle in human history, they were the ones who structured this system of references and procedures. They remained its guardians until it was transmitted to a small group of persons of the Hebrew people. Moses was the one in charge of the transmission,
Akhenatonalthough he himself was no therapist. I say “Moses”, but that also includes his next of kin. In the same way, instead of saying “It was Aménophis III and Akhenaten”, one should say: “It was at their request”. In short, all the so-called esoteric knowledge in our Western culture has been compiled, structured and developed by the Egyptians. The Essenes did not adopt this entire heritage. They were first and foremost interested in therapies and the data concerning the subtle reality of the universe … Why was that? Simply because there is an analogy between these two subjects. The human body is a replica of the cosmos. As for the rest of the traditional knowledge, it was taken over by the science of Kabbalah.

Some books say that those who had been trained in this tradition had also been initiated into immortality. Have the Akashic records revealed anything on this subject?

D.M.: The principle of immortality was no concern of the initiated Essenian therapists. For them as for us, the physical body was only a transitional vehicle. Nevertheless, they also knew certain very special practices mainly based on breath control and aimed at purifying body and mind from most of the accumulated slag which accelerates ageing of the body. They were reserved for a very small number of persons – a bit like advanced yogis – who felt called to stretch their good physical condition to the extreme.

The capacity of bringing the physical body to another vibratory level without having to go through death – as is the case with the Masters of Shambhalla and their alchemist disciples – is the result of an illumination or individual transfiguration in view of a very special form of service. This is not the doing of a specific initiatory school.

Today, the almost compulsive search for immortality of the flesh is clearly the delusion of a certain America fascinated by everything that resembles power, and utterly afraid of ageing and dying. True immortality is on a completely different level.

How has this tradition endured over time? Are there nowadays any groups still in possession of this knowledge? The Rosicrucians and the Cathars are sometimes mentioned in this connection …

D.M.: The Essenian and Egyptian tradition has endured underground in its overall aspect through the Western initiatory schools and movements. To name but a few, one can indeed mention the Rosicrucians, some organizations claiming to be followers of the Templars, and even druidism, in some ways, although the origins of druidic lore are much more complex. Catharism cannot be left out from such a list either, even though one could deplore their very dualistic attitude… which is, by the way, not unlike the Essenian doctrine practised in the monasteries.

We are talking here of purely esoteric knowledge, of rituals involving the subtle energies of Nature, but also of high metaphysics and philosophy in the sacred sense. These movements and these schools are generally characterized by cycles of activity and rest, in other words by ups and downs, rises and falls, as is the way of all flesh.

As far as I know, it is much less evident to find traces of a structured and comprehensive therapeutic tradition within these schools.

One must keep in mind that the Essenian and Egyptian tradition was mostly an oral tradition. When some data were written down, on papyrus rolls for example, this was often done in codified or symbolic language. Not so much in order to conceal information, but to preserve its sacred and intangible character. Today, we are under the impression that words can define everything, but, very often, they carry concepts in a kind of mental enclosure. That is the purpose of symbols and archetypes. They bring reflection to different levels … knowing that intellectual capacities alone will not bring us to these levels.

How did this therapeutic tradition reappear in our time?

D.M.: I must say that I was personally involved in its resurgence, without having looked for it. In the first place, I would like to clarify that this was not done by way of the Akashic Records or Memory of Time, as some have wrongly contended, but by channeling.

These channeling sessions – through incorporation – started at the fall of 1984. In addition, the research made by my soul through the Akashic Records helped me explore in more depth and progressively structure the data I had discovered over several decades.

So, I started channeling in 1984 in the small village of Plazac in Périgord, where I relayed live information regarding the therapies. This information came from spheres of consciousness outside our planet. It emanated from non-earthly entities who had already communicated in the remote past with the ancient peoples of our world, particularly the Egyptians and the Essenes.

Please note that I prefer to speak of “spheres of consciousness outside our planet” rather than using another commonplace expression. You might ask why. Well, first of all, basically because these words have been misused and twisted by science fiction and in some writings; then, because the notion “sphere of consciousness” primarily refers to the “level of consciousness”, in other words to the inner elevation as opposed to a technological gap. The ancient texts associated with our culture mention the name Elohim. They are the ones I am talking about; they are the source of the information I have been receiving since 1984.

A number of Essenes – but not all of them – were men and women whose psychic sensibility allowed them an easy relationship with the invisible world. Contacts with non-earthly beings of cosmic proportions – entities in touch with the Divine – were familiar to them. It sometimes happened that they communicated with the Elohim.

In 1984, when I was brought in regular contact with my previous lives among the Essenes and in Egypt, and then encouraged to “kick off” the project I am still working on today, I started receiving teachings on Essenian therapies – or, more precisely, on Essenian and Egyptian therapies – in front of an audience of thirty to fifty persons and at the rate of once or twice a week. I personally wrote down the information I received during each meeting. Much of the data given through my mouth during the channeling sessions has also been recorded on tape while being transmitted live in front of the public. This work has gone on for a dozen years in Périgord and was then resumed in Quebec. This is how the therapeutic tradition we are talking about was revived. The ensuing method of energetic healing is based on precise messages and a whole lot of information.

Throughout the years, these data, both practical and spiritual, finally and quite naturally ended up forming a real corpus of information. This information is regularly completed by numerous readings of the Akashic Records.

This sums up the history of this therapeutic tradition, such as we know it today…

When the Essenian therapies – or rather Essenian and Egyptian therapies, if you prefer, because this designation is more precise at any rate – when these therapies were revived through the channelings I had received, we did not yet have any specific name for them. We only spoke of universal energetic therapies. We finally named them Essenian by assimilation, the Essenian therapists having been the last to practice them about two thousand years ago.

I would like to add that the corpus of information we have gathered until now is being continually updated with new data as I receive them and with the contribution and know-how of my wife, Marie-Johanne, who is also very “connected” to the “Essenian times”.

What was for the Essenes – and for the Egyptians before them – the role of illness in human beings?

D.M.: In their tradition, just like in all great world traditions, the therapists who had a holistic approach to illness always saw it as an appointment of the being with himself. Illness inevitably indicates a crossroads in the life of a person, a crossroads which suggests he should re-think his way of living, especially his inner life hygiene. This is about emotional and mental hygiene. It also has to do with the person’s beliefs, which often end up conditioning the person and inducing a particular behavior. In modern terms, one could say that illness, viewed in this light, is like a red light flashing on the dashboard of a vehicle. It is the sign of some disorder which must be detected, the roots of which might very well be quite different from the actual symptom or even appear to have no relation with it.

Coming back to the Essenes and the Egyptians, I would say that they emphasized the importance of the energetic masses generated by human thoughts. They saw in these masses, which are nowadays called “thought forms”, the origin of most health problems. They had noticed on the one side that these masses weakened or broke up the human aura, and on the other side that they attracted toxic organisms from the lower astral plane, called “illness entities”. Their first concern was logically to purify the patient’s subtle organism by all sorts of methods, and then to clear any energetic blockages before even trying to re-establish a healing life flow. The notion of “disinfection” was paramount to them… The patients who were able to take responsibility for themselves were then taught some sorts of mantras and visualization exercises of “mental reconstruction” to help them modify their relationship to life and to prevent a possible relapse of the same problem. On the whole, the ancient people considered that going through an serious illness was like going through an initiation. Ideally, one had to try to understand its meaning. Which does not mean that is was always done and always succeeded. This approach prefigured undoubtedly what we call psychotherapy today… except for the fact that the existence of the soul was its central pivot … which is, alas, not necessarily the case nowadays, far from it. The human being is an indivisible whole, and this means that if he is deprived of one of his dimensions, none of his problems can be solved in depth. The problems are only shifted and given another name.

Back then, the therapists were priests, because healing was a sacred act. Today, things have obviously changed and one no longer considers priesthood as having necessarily anything to do with therapies. Marie Johanne Croteau Meurois, you are currently conducting a training program in Essenian therapies together with Daniel. Who is this training aimed at? How important is the sacred aspect of these therapies for you?

Marie Johanne C. Meurois: Our training program in Essenian and Egyptian therapies is of course not intended for everyone, because we honestly think that the basic qualities of a good therapist are not given to everyone. The essential qualities we are looking for in our training school are the qualities related to true compassion, for example. Many people do not really know what compassion truly means: the sincere will to help and nurse, the ability to listen to the ill person and to accept him. Other qualities are honesty, capacity of discernment, a clear spiritual path and what is called faith. Finally, it would be optimal to manifest certain gifts which could facilitate the practice of this type of therapy, such as, for example, a particular sensitivity of the hands, clairaudience, clairvoyance, etc…

It is not a matter of saying, as I unfortunately heard recently in a video about this type of therapy: « In order to heal, you have to inject the light which is all around us into the subtle bodies … ».

This answer left me perplexed, because in our opinion, this wording is incoherent and inconsistent in the context of the Essenian tradition. Such a statement seems to leave out the whole sacred aspect of the therapies and disregard their basic principle: the inner search of a specific quality of Light on the part of the therapist. The aim is to channel this Light and then infuse it with all the Love and Consciousness needed into the patient’s body… without forgetting to ask for help and assistance from the Heavenly Entities, the Guides of Light.

It should be mentioned that the healing act is an act of complete symbiosis with “Heaven”. A trinity consisting of the Divine Presence, the therapist and the patient must be made manifest. The therapeutic energy flows then from Heaven to the therapist, who acts as a tool and a channel. The therapist then transmits through his hands the “Sacred Healing Energy” to the patient’s body, and the Light finally returns to “Heaven”. This is a continuous Trinitarian movement of regeneration of the flow of the Healing Energy of Love coming from the heavenly spheres.

How important is the sacred aspect of these therapies for me? Of the utmost importance, because healing is a sacred act by itself. Without asking for help from a Light Entity, without acknowledgement of the Sacred, there is no healing is possible. It’s as simple as that. No need to learn “to gesticulate mentally” in the subtle energies of an ill body and to utter sounds, nothing will change at a deep level. Any positive result in the Egyptian-Essenian therapies is based on the therapist’s faith and his respect of the sacred aspect of the act of healing, in other words on a true connection to the universal Divine Energy.

We certainly do not just teach a set of data which is to be mentally integrated. We teach our students to unlearn the mental models in order to connect themselves to the Source and the Heart of it inside and outside us, in order to let the therapeutic Energy work on the ill body.

We try to give our students a feeling of the existence of another “step” to climb, the step which brings them from the simple level of therapist to the level of healer therapist.

We also recommend working in parallel with the official medicine of our society, because no branch of medicine should exclude the others. The Essenian – or Egyptian-Essenian therapies are not a set of techniques to be more or less skillfully combined with the hands, but are the result of a sacred and intimate communion of the heart and the soul. Wisdom and mastery consist in handling both intelligently. We want to give our students all the tools of this method, but above all, we hope to bring them closer to its mystical aspect and teach them to integrate the Healing Energy in their hands and in their hearts, thus magnifying the impact of a simple technique.

Love alone is not enough, it needs the breath of Will. Without it you cannot dream, you cannot accomplish anything”, as is written in “Les Enseignements premiers du Christ”. (by Daniel Meurois, Éditions Le Passe-Monde)

Christ obviously has a very important place in your teachings. Do you consider him an Essenian therapist?

MJ.C. Meurois: Yes, Christ has indeed a very important place in our teachings, but certainly not because we consider him an Essenian therapist. Of course, he had been trained in Krml by the Great White Brotherhood since his early childhood, but he had also been initiated in Egypt, where he taught the therapies in temples.

Daniel Meurois has given multiple accounts concerning this in his books and seminars, but, to make a brief recap, this is roughly what he said: “After returning from a long journey of 17 years in India and the Himalayas, Master Jeshua underwent an initiatory death in the great pyramid of Cheops, during which he was filled with the solar supra-consciousness of Christ. After this major event, he was filled with another Force during a second initiation. During the famous ceremony of baptism in the Jordan River, the consciousness of the Logos of our galaxy was added to the supra-consciousness of Christ. So, when we speak of Christ, we mean Jesus-Christ. There are three forces in one: the first is the force of the incarnated Master of Wisdom, the second comes from the highest realized entity of our solar system, and the third from the highest Entity of our Galaxy”.

I had the luck to be a close female witness of Christ, two thousand years ago. I find it so hard to describe what He was and still is for me… Words are too inadequate or meaningless… Even today, I cannot neither describe nor express the forces that worked and radiated from and through Him.

No, Christ was not an Essenian therapist, he was Christ!

What I teach today comes from my own memories of Master Jeshua’s teachings, which I personally received in a small group of more or less ten persons. I teach according to the live memory of my soul. Every aspect of my teaching is permeated by this memory of Him. Of course, I don’t forget either the basic source of these therapies, received directly from the Elohim (or Star Brothers) and revived by Daniel since 1984.

Were there more men or women among the Essenian therapists? Did the women have specific tasks, for example working with oils and herbs?

MJ.C. Meurois: The churches are traditionally patriarchal and have always favored men. Master Jeshua had on the contrary privileged or encouraged a matriarchal tradition. His first disciples were undoubtedly women: his mother Myriam, Mary Magdalene, Mary Salome, Mary Jacobe … These female disciples worked at least as much as the men tending to the ill according to His teachings. This did not prevent some of them from working at the preparation of precious healing oils and perfumes, and using medicinal herbs according to the ancestral Essenian and Egyptian herb lore. However, it should not be assumed that all disciples of Master Jeshua had healing skills or knowledge … just as it would be wrong to believe that they were all gifted orators capable of drawing large crowds. It was mostly through their radiance that they transmitted their Christlike sensitivity, whether they were men or women, therapists or not.

Daniel Meurois, has there been an evolution of the therapies from the Egyptians to the Essenes? Can you confirm that the Essenian therapies were a little more ethereal or maybe more simple?

D.M.: There was bound to be an evolution, or rather a series of adjustments. That is logical and reassuring, because everything rigid is bound to die. Each people, each culture has its own sensitivity, its strengths and weaknesses. When travelling from one tradition to the other, the same knowledge is inevitably colored by the land which receives it. It can become richer in some areas, weaker in others, that’s what makes it alive. One should not forget that this was essentially an oral tradition. It was logical to find variations from one teacher to the other, from Egypt to Palestine. Actually, it would be overly simplistic to claim that the therapies of the Essenes were more ethereal or simple. This depended in the first place on the teacher and the context in which he was teaching.

However, I admit that the Essenes were a little shyer of body contact than the Egyptians, due to their allegiance to Judaism. I would also say that the Egyptians were less dualistic in this regard, because they treated the physical body as a temple to be respected and not so much as a dense manifestation of life. In this regard, Jeshua was certainly more like an Egyptian, because He did not fear any aspect of the human body; He was not at all reluctant of body contact, contrary to what the Christian tradition wants us to believe. He saw life as a whole and did not exclude any of its levels of manifestation. This is what Marie Johanne and I are trying to convey through the way we are teaching these therapies. The subtle and the dense are closely interwoven and should not repel nor exclude each other. Many people claim they want to overcome duality, but are still unable to understand that duality starts just there. Learning to get in touch with the ethereal expressions of life does not imply losing or even less denying its denser roots.

Modern science has discovered some notions which I believe the Egyptians already knew about, some thousands of years ago. Can you say a few words about it?

D.M.: I actually mentioned in “Ainsi soignaient-ils” the existence of a very precise point in the human heart which the Egyptians at the time of Akhenaten called “the life point”. This point seems to coincide with a certain zone of the human heart which was discovered a short time ago by researchers of the Heartmath Institute in the United States. It is a hypersensitive zone consisting of about 40.000 cells, which should never be touched during heart surgery at the risk of causing the instantaneous death of the patient.

Researchers clearly speak of it as a brain within the heart endowed with memory.

As far as I am concerned, this point necessarily reminds me of the extension or the physical expression of what is called the primal atom.

The primal atom is a subtle atom made of condensed Akasha. In a way, it forms the basic database – or the hard disk, if you prefer – of every human being. It therefore represents the total memory of each person from the origin of his being. It includes all the karmic elements, history and profound architecture of every being. I am convinced that this modern discovery – actually a rediscovery – will raise a lot of interest in the coming years and finally contribute to the reconciliation of the subtle and the dense. When will we ever understand that the intelligence of the heart is not only a nice metaphorical and poetical concept?

Are you preparing a second volume of “Ainsi soignaient-ils”?

D.M.: Actually maybe much more than a second volume… But this will be a surprise. There is so much to say in order to “revive” all this!

Sacrée Planète

Egyptian-Essenian Therapies for the magazine “Sacrée Planète”

An interview with Marie Johanne Croteau-Meurois and Daniel Meurois for the magazine “Sacrée Planète”   The tradition of energetic healing known under the general label “Essenian therapies” was also known in ancient Egypt. Could it date even further back? Can you tell...
Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void

Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void…

The Day of the great turning point  Going beyond what we already know about the out-of-body experience that changed Daniel Meurois’ life in 1971, this is the chronicle of events that led him to the decision to devote himself solely to writing testimonies of his...
Who were the Essenes

Who were the Essenes?

Transcript of the interview of Daniel Meurois by Pierre Abraham  in “Conversation Papillon”, 9 September 2010.   Pierre Abraham: Daniel Meurois, people have been talking about the Essenes ever since the discovery of the first Dead Sea Scrolls; but who were the Essenes...

Essenian and Egyptian Therapies

The real method and resurgence of the Egyptian-Essenian therapies by Daniel Meurois and Marie Johanne Croteau-Meurois.This healing method is based on the knowledge of the Essenes and Egyptians and transmitted in the spirit of the holistic tradition by Marie-Johanne...
Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void…

Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void…

The Day of the great turning point 

Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void

Going beyond what we already know about the out-of-body experience that changed Daniel Meurois’ life in 1971, this is the chronicle of events that led him to the decision to devote himself solely to writing testimonies of his experiences, thereby becoming one of the pioneers of the New Consciousness.
A detailed account, known by few, that underscores the importance of audacity and confidence in our lives. Here is the complete text of a conversation with Annie Laforest for Alchymed.

 

Annie Laforêt : Daniel Meurois, hello!

Daniel Meurois : Hello!

AL: I am so very happy to be here with you today, Daniel.  As we know each other quite well and this will allow for a more personal conversation; and for those who do not know you, we will start at the beginning. You are an internationally renowned writer; with your thirty-third book has just been published (we will present it later), and you have been exploring the topic of the expansion of consciousness for more than thirty years now.  Can you tell us a bit about how this all happened?

DM: Indeed, it has been more than thirty years, as far as my written accounts are concerned, thirty-three years of writing, to be exact. As far as my own experience which initiated all of this, it was even further back in 1972. So it’s been about 40 years, a little more. I will give a brief account because I’ve already spoken about this at length; a review for those who are unfamiliar with the starting point of my path.

In 1972, I was in my first years of college in the north of France, in Lille, to be precise. One evening, having come home from classes, I had what we call an out-of-body experience.  At the time I had no idea of what this experience might be but it was sufficiently marking to determine a new course for my life from that moment on.  In short, that is how it began.  In a split second, as I was lying on my bed, I found myself expulsed from my body, that is, my consciousness enabled me to look at myself from outside my body.  It seems silly to say this, but it is understandably an unsettling experience.

Perhaps the word unsettling is a bit excessive, but it was sufficiently astonishing to ask questions. I realized that myself, I was not simply a view onto this body lying on the bed in this little student bedroom, but that the eyes looking at my body were themselves part of a body, another body that was not material. Now after years and years of having thought this through, I would say that this body had  -and still has since I still have these experiences – a semi-electric, semi-gaseous substance. It is an immaterial body.

AL: Daniel, I have a small question. When this happened rather than frightening you I think it awakened your curiosity…

DM: Yes. I did not feel bad, quite the contrary, I felt extremely serene. So this is what later oriented my investigation, as the state I was in could not be attributed to a dream. It was the exact opposite of a dream: a state of hyper lucidity where the senses increase tenfold. The consciousness is also very precise, very sharp, so that I said to myself: I see myself from outside, I’m no longer in my body. Is that death?

My first thought, and it goes all very fast of course, was: if this is death, it’s wonderful… because I felt so great it was extraordinary. I looked at what was happening and realized that I could not control this second semi-gaseous, semi-electric body as I was saying, because this one was burying itself into the ceiling of my bedroom, the cupboard of the room, etc…  I saw my notebooks, my clothes in the cupboard. Then, I would say that I was privileged to live a truly blessed moment before being pulled back into my body. It lasted an indefinite amount of time that seemed relatively long.

Perhaps it lasted five, minutes, ten minutes, or maybe 30 seconds, I don’t know.  But it was so powerful that once I regained use of my body, which was beginning to feel a bit numb, I had to break into it again. It took me several minutes to begin questioning this. What exactly had I experienced? So I sought to reproduce the experience. It took me months to be able to identify the experience. At the time, in 72, virtually nothing had been written on the topic. I found an old book from the 30s or 40s that talked about astral travel and so on.  So, I called the experience as such, and after six months, I finally said to myself: I absolutely need to relive this again because there must be more to it and I need to know.

AL: At that time, you were a student of literature.

DM: Yes, I was a student of literature at the University of Lille.

It took me about another six months to find myself, naturally without the use of any substance and without effort, able to leave my body a second time. From then on after my second out-of-body experience, I began devising a technique to leave the body voluntarily.So my adventure into the expansion of consciousness, that later became a spiritual experience without ties to any faith or dogma, began here.

Over the years, I realized that this experience was similar to the experience of dying. Once I was able to master the technique for leaving the body or for astral travel, I began travelling to other planes of consciousness and to parallel universes where life takes on an entirely different meaning. That is how it all started.

AL: It started like this but at the same time you were destined to a teaching career. So you operated on these two different levels.

DM: When one studies literature, there are not many other avenues of work besides teaching.  So we can say that officially I was destined to become a teacher or a lecturer.

AL: But you had begun to write about this topic and share your experiences.

DM: Yes, indeed.  After seven years I felt I had sufficiently mastered this and something extraordinary happened.

I met a Being outside of my body on one of the planes of the after-life. I won’t go into detail about this topic now.

This Being served me as a guide for a number of years.  The Being proposed that I write an account of what I’d lived and the implications of these extraordinary experiences.

And it began like that.  After about seven years, I began to write about this.

A first book was published that drew much attention from the medias just a few months later.

A second book also and so on.

I was lucky to have access to important television and radio shows in France, as well as newspapers as at the time these things were not openly discussed.

There were not many books about this and very few people were committed to this line of work. Therefore I benefited from this impact.

So the first two books were very popular but even so, it does not mean an author can live from his writing. It helps out but one cannot just plan to live from a writing career.  Furthermore, I didn’t know whether I would have any other experiences to write about.

AL: Also being a teacher gave you job security, and the future could be comfortable and..

DM: Indeed. At the same time, if I want to be honest with myself, I never could see myself teaching my entire life.  I liked contact with adolescents. I always preferred adolescents and young adults; that is just my nature. I felt that discussions could be more interesting, but I never imagined teaching my entire life.  It seemed, well.. impossible.

AL: This is the story you are going to tell us, absolutely, as it is an important point in your life.

DM: Indeed. One day, as a result of my contact with this Being of Light that in my books I call the Blue Being or the Blue Man, he began to say: “ You should not stay in the north. You should go to the southwest of the country”. I say “you” in the plural because my wife at the time, to whom I had taught this technique, had devoted herself to the same kind of investigations.

He said “You should not stay where you are now and it would be good that you travel to the southwest of France, to the region of Perigord, precisely”. There, he indicated a small perimeter in which I should look for something.

AL: The location was precise?

DM: It was not. It was a perimeter, a triangle the sides of which were about 40 or 50 kilometers.

AL: A bit of freedom.

DM: Yes, a bit of freedom.

And that was all.

He added: “I cannot guarantee anything. Try to make a leap, but remember that I cannot guarantee anything”.

So I come back to my body with this information. Then seeing that the first two books had made some money, today’s equivalent of 17 or 18 thousand dollars – not much but as a young teacher, one is content.

So this money, what could I do with it at the time?

Well, travel south to the Perigord and try to find something.

With confidence, but with no specific information.

Then we found something but with 17 or 18 thousand dollars, what can one get…

AL: Not a castle…

DM: ..if only a ruin?  So we found a ruin and I said: That’s it, that’s what we need. We buy the ruin, etc.  Then during the vacations and the entire year we tried to fix it up, we poured concrete, replaced doors, windows, hired local craftsmen with our savings.  Basically, the inside of the ruin was bare earth.

AL:  But you were still working as a teacher at that time?

DM: Yes, this was all happening during the school vacations.

There was the ground and a wall inside which was cob. The doors and windows were falling out.  A little tree was growing in the main room.. it was, well, a ruin.

AL: An organic house.

DM: Yes, absolutely.  But something incredibly poetic and truly beautiful.  The gingerbread house from fairy tales; that is what it was like.

So the little ruin was bought in 82. Then the winter of 84 began and still there was this admonishment to move without any guarantees, nothing at all. I said to myself: we must leave from here because if we don’t move, nothing will ever happen. It was the end of winter when I made the decision.  I took my finest pen and signed my letter of resignation from the National Education Office.

AL: Then that was a great leap.

DM: Yes, it was a great leap because I thought, Daniel, there is nothing waiting for you… you don’t have tenure as a teacher, you are in the system but don’t have seniority, and it’s a good job, which offers security..

AL: It was a clearly defined path.

DM: It was a path. Of course, I sent my resignation letter to the education office without specifying a reason, as I wasn’t going to start telling my entire story.

I simply don’t want to do it anymore and I stop. That ‘s all.

Naturally, my entire family made comments. “What are you doing, Daniel! Are you crazy? What about the job security.. it’s not easy to obtain a teaching position. It’s a guarantee for the future”, and so on.  So there was panic coming from the family. But myself, surprisingly, I felt incredibly free.

And happy!  Although I should have felt a sort of anguish… I felt happiness, and an indescribable sense of freedom!

AL: You said something very important earlier, Daniel. You said: “If we don’t spring into action, if we don’t move, nothing happens”.

DM: I could feel this. I couldn’t necessarily put it into words, but I sensed it.

Two or three weeks passed.

All of a sudden, the phone rang at the house. It was the evening, I remember.

I answered and it was the voice of my publisher.

“Listen, Daniel, there is the publishing business, and related to this, I have another offer to make.

Your books sell rather well. It gives me too much work.

What would you think of revamping the publishing company?”

It was a very small publishing company. There were two books to edit- three books, two of which were mine.  He said of his business: I’m the smallest editing company in Paris”. And it must have been probably accurate.

AL: It was almost like saying: “Daniel, would you like to buy your own rights back?”

DM: Then he says: How would you like to restructure the publishing house and direct it?

Now that made me think. He said: “Beware, because financially, it’s going to be tight”.

But what he was saying was to me was like a gift from heaven.

I couldn’t care less to be tight financially.

To me, the important point was that I had just closed a door and there, just three weeks later, another door opened, into an area that forced me to challenge myself.

So the answer was an emphatic YES.

Because the publishing house was not formally established;

it was under a personal name and had to be transformed into a corporation, etc.

It needed undivided attention in order to open and become a viable company.

I did say to him: “You know, we’re in Perigord now, not in the north of France. It’s a little house, a ruin right in nature”.

“That’s no problem. The work of a publishing house can be done anywhere.”

So that was the starting point.

But since life always has surprises, about two or three months later, I don’t remember exactly,

I received a letter from the National Education Office saying: “We are offering you a teaching position in the southwest of France”…

AL: That was the devil trying to tempt you.

DM: … as if I had never sent my resignation letter. It was as though that letter had landed God knows where.

AL: That was putting you face-to-face with the challenge and with your choice.

DM: It was as though life was saying: is that really what you want? Because if what you want is to live there, you can, and we are giving you this opportunity to do so. You can have a teaching position in the southwest and you don’t have to be an publisher if you don’t want to.

AL: Is it often like this in life, Daniel? When we make a big decision to make important changes in our life, something comes up right after just to…

DM: I have always witnessed this in my life and I don’t think I’m an exception. I believe that when we come to crossroads and change directions, opportunities arise and help is offered, even though we may not always realize it.

But this was so obvious that I could not help wondering.

There was no hesitation, I have to say. I simply said no.

That was a trap to distract me from my work. There would simply be no more teaching.

Then we moved into this little house that was a construction site, sleeping on improvised mattresses, a bit like in a dream.

Then it became livable and in the fall, the company was created.  At the time it was called the Arista publishing house, which later became the Amrita publishing house.

AL: I remember visiting that house, it was a small house very, very far …

DM:  There were 50 square meters in the middle of nature. Thirty on the ground floor and 20 on the first floor; and a slanted roof.

AL: It was this emphatic “Yes” to life that enabled you to begin spreading the teachings of Christ and of the Essenes, which you have been doing since.

DM: Surprisingly, it was in that house, after two or three months of having lived there that “The Way of the Essenes” came out. There was a kind of coincidence. Then, the whole adventure so to speak, the life experience that led me to talk about the Essenes and their philosophy and all that followed from this began there.

AL: Tell me a bit about the Essenes, as I know there are many for whom this word is unknown.

Or perhaps people know the word but are not familiar. Who are the Essenes?

DM: The Essenes were a small faction of mystics within the Jewish tradition, two thousand years ago.

It is in this context that Jesus, the Master Jesus, grew up.

The Essenes were somewhat heretical compared to the rest of the Jewish population of the time.

They were much more mystical and also ascetical.

They lived either in very strict communities, like the one in Qumran, or in villages where there was much more freedom and a sense of equality, like the little communities of Galilee.

This is the environment in which Jesus grew up.

It was the Essenes that gave birth to the famous Dead Sea scrolls that are much talked about. Manuscripts that demonstrate the rather austere monastic character of Qumran.

The communities that I have mentioned many times in my books are fraternities in small villages where there was much gentleness and tolerance and where mysticism was prevalent.

It was by developing this out-of-body experience that I spoke of earlier that I was able to have access to this information.

I realized that while out of the body my consciousness could have access to different strata or vibrational levels.

I realized that by striving to improve oneself, human consciousness has at times the possibility of connecting to a fifth element of nature that is not often widely discussed.

We often speak of the four basic elements: earth, water, fire and air. I won’t go into details, but those are the four basic elements.

There is a fifth important element which is called akasha.

Akasha is a Sanskrit term meaning “light”. But Light with a capital L.

The specificity of this element of the universe is that it is comparable to what in earlier times might have been called the sensitive plate of a camera, and today in more modern terms might be called the hard drive of a mega computer.

That is, everything we do, everything that is said or done somewhere in the universe – and here let us speak of just what goes on on the earth – everything is recorded.

It is an absolutely incredible database.

By connecting one’s consciousness to this gigantic hard drive, we can find the film of certain past events.

That is how with the help of Beings of Light, among which was the Blue Being I mentioned earlier, I connected to the frequency of the film of a life I lived two thousand years ago in an Essenian environment, among the Essenian fraternity and the Master Jesus.

So when I speak of a life that I have lived before it obviously suggests that this out-of-the body experience implies, whether we like it or not, the notion of reincarnation.

I was always being asked: “Do you believe in reincarnation”?

I always answered: “No, I don’t believe in it. For me it is a reality.”

It is not a belief in something but rather a direct experience. I come in close contact with it regularly with my body and with my soul.

This is a short version of the story, to allow those who don’t know me to understand my method, which is a purely experimental method.

So my books are the written transcriptions of the many such experiences I’ve had.

AL: Can anyone do this, Daniel?

DM: In theory, yes. All human beings are made according to the same plan, of course. Except that some are good at mathematics, some are musicians, while others are masons or plumbers. Everyone is needed on earth.  Personally, my particularity is that my consciousness, my soul, is apparently destined to have these experiences and write about them.

Of course, from an external viewpoint, it is easy to say: You made that leap because you knew…

To this I reply no because at the time, what I am describing was far from being crystal clear.

I knew about out-of-body experiences and I knew that there existed invisible worlds that are extremely tangible.  But I had always been told: “We don’t guarantee anything”.

AL: You had to accomplish an act of faith.

DM: Indeed. As I said earlier, I understood intuitively that if I did not initiate this somehow, nothing would ever happen.

And I believe this to be true for everyone.

My case may be telling because it has to do with the invisible world, if you will.

I soon felt a force inside me.  It was as though I had more or less subconsciously recognized the direction of my destiny.  Yes, the path I was destined to take.

I think we all come to this world with a roadmap but without an operation manual.  There is no operation manual for our personal lives.

AL: However on this path, we may often feel that we are predestined and yet remain unsatisfied. Sometimes our destiny appears to us when we take the service road. That makes it difficult..

DM: Yes, it is difficult at times to have the courage or the strength to stop, to rethink things, and to say: “What exactly do I want in life? What do I really care about?”

Not everyone is capable of doing it. I agree it is not easy for all.

When we realize this: I don’t know what I want exactly, and don’t know where life wants to take me, but I know that I don’t want what I am living now; it is then that we must listen to ourselves and make real changes.

I think our world is crowded with too many who stagnate.

Of course, some will say: you could have gone astray. Yes, I could have taken the wrong turn, obviously. So what?  I think we need to learn to dare to be wrong.

AL: Yes, because taking a wrong turn is not such a big deal.

DM: At least we tried, and this opens our mind.

I think the worst thing that can happen in our life – well, let’s say the saddest thing, is to not dare to take risks. Half-heartedness, in a sense.

I know that some will find my words to be harsh.  And it is true that it is not easy. Yet, a carefree attitude sometimes is good.  It sets us into motion. Furthermore, we cannot hope for something that will make us happier if we cannot at some point come to grips and say okay, I will make this change in my life.

AL: I take this risk.

DM: I take my chances.

What is a pity is to be feeble.

Evidently, not everyone can take risks, like when one has a family with young children and so on. That is an entirely different ballgame, I do realize.

But what I mean is that sometimes, and perhaps more often than we think in life, there are doors that open and then we have to decide: shall I take this risk?

AL: It is similar, Daniel, to when we are on our deathbed and our worst regrets are not about what we tried or what we failed, but rather what we did not attempt.

DM: Yes, that is right. Those who know me know that I made life changes that were painful, and these lead one to lose certain things.

But I’ve said before that my losses are my wealth. Because thanks to those losses I grew within, and perhaps surpassed myself more than if I had followed the tracks I was on at the time.

I realize it is easier to say this in hindsight, when events have already unfolded.

But truly, to avoid taking the risk of going astray is itself a way of going astray.

AL: Ah, this is very deep. I shall meditate on this thought.

Daniel, I would like to come back to the topic of the Essenes since you are going to present your latest book, your latest creation. I have it here.

DM: It isn’t only my latest creation but also my wife’s – Marie-Johanne Croteau – because it is with her that I wrote it. She is co-author of this book.

AL: It is a very practical book.

DM: It is a practical book where we bring together the philosophy of the Essenian and Egyptian therapies, an in-depth understanding of the energetic structure of the human being and of course, the greatest part of the book comprises the healing exercises.

AL: It concerns more than just the healing of the physical body..

DM: It is about the whole being: body, soul and spirit.  Such are the Essenian and also the Egyptian traditions. Really they are one as there is filial relation between the two trends.

AL: So what are the expectations people have from reading your book?

DM: To have both a workbook and a book that will bring them into the sacredness of this work, because that is essential.

The sense of Sacred here is very important because one cannot simply put these healing techniques into practice without being permeated by an inner endeavor.  The sense of sacredness is really central to this therapeutic method.

In fact, underlying this very complete healing method is a notion of connection. The connection the healer must have with the universal force of Life.  Some call this God, others may call it the Universal Force.  Whatever name we give it, it is the immanent Presence of Life with a capital L that sustains us at every moment.

The healer’s search for this connection leads him or her into a feeling of oneness with everything.

When one is able to reach this feeling of oneness at will the healing energy flows all the more with the patient.

So this method is not practiced as though we were adding two plus three plus four and it amounts to ten, or whatever. That’s not it. It is a whole.

We enter into a dimension of life that is entirely different and that is what makes these treatments unique.

I would say it is like magical for the person receiving care, and incredibly “edifying” in quotes – I’m not sure the correct term exists – for the one giving.

In reality, we work in a triangular fashion: the Sacred, the healer, and the patient.

AL: During the video conference, we will propose a toolbox, and here you propose an exercise from that book. Would you like to tell us a bit about that exercise?

DM: It is a unique exercise in that book as the rest of the book is geared towards people who will treat someone else who is suffering from something or other.

But in this exercise the patient treats himself, it is a self treatment.

That is the exception in the book, an exercise the healer can give the patient to do between two therapy sessions.

It is an exercise especially for people who suffer intensely from excessive emotionality. I would say that excessive emotionality is the door to anxiety.  I think we all know people around us who are over emotional and tend to turn small problems into large dramas, and lose self-control because of this.

This causes them to feel badly and not be able to manage their lives adequately, leading to more or less chronic anxiety.

This is an extremely common phenomenon.  In this world, it has always been an issue, but I think perhaps our modern world tends to take us more and more in this direction.   The particularity of this exercise, which is very old since its origin dates back to several thousand years, is that the person who suffers from severe emotional distress can practice these simple gestures.

AL: Is it a breathing exercise?

DM: It is a breathing exercise where we place the hands on certain chakras while breathing a certain way and doing a visualization. Of course, it’s not like taking an aspirin. It is an exercise one should do daily so as to make it one’s own, and it will operate deep-seated changes on the person.

AL: That is personal development..

DM: That’s right. It’s not like just saying: I’m taking this pill and my symptom will disappear in ten minutes. Clearly, that’s not how this works.

It is no magic pill but rather an endeavor to work on oneself in a very simple and gentle way. There is no need to be a specialist of one thing or other.

AL: If you chose to offer this particular exercise, I think it must be because leaping into a void, making great changes by taking actions we’ve never taken before can cause anxiety and bring up lots of strong emotions.

DM: Generally, it generates emotionality, anxiety, and adds to the stress of every day life.

AL: But why do we fear so the unknown, why does it hold us back so much?

DM: I think we are raised this way. There are populations that are often called primitive for which the notion of fear is not even part of their vocabulary.

I’m not saying there are many on earth. I forget their name, but I know of some African populations for which this notion is foreign. The word for fear does not exist.

Of course we can say that fear is useful in life as it serves as a safeguard against foolish actions. It is part of our mechanisms of self-protection that can prevent suffering.  As a self-protective mechanism, fear has a function.

Except that in our culture, in most of our world’s culture, I think we teach humans fear of many things from the very beginning, from birth.  We all know we can suffer, that we can fall and get hurt physically, emotionally, etc. But this notion of fear is so developed that we cut our wings from childhood and we do the same to our children by making them wary and by not teaching them trust.  That is what is so important: trust in our way of life, trust in our capacities and in our destiny.

AL: Besides, an act of faith springs from the heart and not from the mind.

DM: Exactly.

I think there are people on earth who illustrate this very well.

The example I gave earlier is but a small one. But people who have really been able to surpass themselves because they trusted something at some point, there are many.

We need to unlearn half-heartedness. We live in a world where we need to be given more and more assurances, offered an array of things that will cover us at every level.

AL: It is also a good market.

DM: Yes, it’s an extremely important financial market.

As a result, as soon as something is slightly out of place we loose our capabilities and panic from being hyper-emotional, anxious, and over stressed.

And then what? Then come tranquilizers and it becomes a vicious circle.

I think this is the direction our world in taking, instead of helping individuals to take charge of themselves from early on, in the sense that each should discover his or her own potential.

Not a potential that is externally defined and where we are made to fit a mold, but the potential that is inherent in each individual. We each have potential. Where we go wrong is when we believe that everyone should have the same faculties in every arena of life.

It’s not possible. Not everyone can be a doctor or a writer and not everyone can build a house.  We each have our own strengths.

I think that is what we need to try to find. To allow each of us to develop self-confidence and his own balance.  Obviously, the pharmaceutical market, as well as the market that benefits from political indoctrination suffers from this because as individuals take control of themselves and of their destiny they are less feeble, less subjugated and simply more mature.

AL: Yes, personal development makes us grow in maturity.

DM: That is the goal. From this maturity is born a form of spirituality which is free, spontaneous, non dogmatic and which enables us to reconnect to our higher dimension. That is the secret. Of course, it does not suit everyone.

AL: That would be another interview. We could talk about this at length. Daniel Meurois, to wrap this up, what would you say to people who feel inside that there may be a side path that is opening up to them and who are hesitant to go forth in a direction they are afraid of following?

DM: There is no one answer because it’s easy to say to anyone that they must have confidence. But confidence is not invented.

First, there are temperaments that are a bit more daring than others and then our upbringing can have a strong influence on this.

Perhaps to try to speak to one’s heart and say: what was my first dream when I came to this world or when I was a young child?

And perhaps that everyone make the effort of asking themselves: what was my initial dream?  If we do this exercise very honestly, memories from childhood may resurface.  At that point, I don’t know whether we can begin executing and realizing the dream that we carry at the bottom of our heart, but perhaps we might make small changes that seem insignificant, but that will liberate us from certain frustrations or hurt and little by little make us take steps towards more relaxation and enjoyment, towards smiling at oneself. Without guilt, most importantly.

AL: Daniel, thank you very much. I will invite our listeners to visit your website the address of which is…

DM: www.danielmeurois.co.uk

AL:  Yes, of course. Thank you, Daniel, that was a wonderful interview.

DM: Thank you very much. Goodbye.

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Transcript of the interview of Daniel Meurois by Pierre Abraham  in “Conversation Papillon”, 9 September 2010.

 

Pierre Abraham: Daniel Meurois, people have been talking about the Essenes ever since the discovery of the first Dead Sea Scrolls; but who were the Essenes actually? 

Daniel Meurois: First of all, we should clarify from which standpoint we are looking at the question, because there are actually two ways to answer it. We have the standpoint we can call official, the standpoint of the historians, archeologists and theologians.

Then, we have the standpoint of the mystics. As you probably guessed, I belong to the latter.

To begin with, let us briefly cover the first standpoint…

The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947 near the Qumrân monastery in Israel extended over a period of five to six years, I believe, until 1956.

Nearly 900 scrolls were brought to light in the process. These manuscripts testify of the existence, 2000 years or more ago, of a very strict monastic community considered today as having been a sect within Judaism. It was a group of ascetics, monks and hermits living in seclusion from the world in the desert of Judea on the shores of the Dead Sea. This is the official point of view, and also what can be found in some rare documents written by the historian Flavius Josephus. He was the first and maybe the only one to mention the Essenes in the written texts of his time.

Who were the EssenesThe origin of the Dead Sea Scrolls dates back between the second and third century before Christ and extends to approximately the middle of the first century A.D.

Let us now talk about the other standpoint, which is mine, the standpoint of the mystic. I indeed call myself a mystic in view of the fact that I have been inwardly experiencing a specific perception of the Essenes for about thirty years now. This experience is based on what is called akashic readings. The akashic records constitute the Memory of Time. I take it that my readers know about it, so I will not explain this notion further today. I will only add that it is my working tool, which has allowed me for the last three decades to “read”, in the form of extremely precise and repeated visions, certain events of past history, and more specifically of life in the Essenian Communities two millennia ago.

Those who have the capacity of looking up information in Time know that there were two different ways of belonging to the Essenian Community. There were of course the Essenes of the monasteries like Qumrân, but the greatest part of the Essenian people lived in small villages mostly situated in Galilea. These villages were based on mutual aid and constituted a real Brotherhood that remained discreetly in the background. The members of this Community used to obey a code of conduct based on very important rules relating to physical, mental, and moral purity. Besides, the notion of possession was alien to the Essenes. In their villages, they used to share everything. It is also important to note that the Essenes were very close to Nature and the natural forces. Everyone had his family and his work, and labored fervently in full respect of the sacred aspect of life, while also obeying the general traditions of Judaism, of which they considered themselves “non-standard” members.

The lifestyle of the Essenes of the villages was, I repeat, very different from that of the Qumrân monks, who were known for their extreme rigidity. The latter were exceedingly intransigent ascetics who abode the code of conduct from the Book of Leviticus, famous for its numerous interdictions and obligations. These monks were – it has to be said – rather intolerant. I am more interested in the Essenes of the village communities.

However, I must add that the ideal of these communities living in families was also represented in the Krmel monastery, a huge construction situated on the heights of the present-day city of Haifa. Unfortunately, there are no remains of it left. A Baha’i temple was built in its location. Within these walls were instructed the most psychically gifted children of the whole Essenian Brotherhood. This monastery was a very famous school dating back to the Egyptian Tradition of Amenophis III, Akhenaton’s father.

The Akashic Records confirm that there was a very direct connection between the mystics of ancient Egypt at the time of Akhenaton and the Essenian mystics. This connection is fascinating. It revolves around a tradition the origin of which was lost in the mists of Time, a tradition which was passed on orally between the initiates. This is what my books are essentially about. Why?  Because I believe that the heirs of this Essenian tradition, with their sensitivity and their perception of the Sacred, are closest to us today.

P.A.: You are indeed known for having written several books on the Essenes and the role of their Brotherhood. But how did you first become interested in this subject? 

DM: Well, I already mentioned it a few moments ago when I explained briefly my working method: akashic readings. So here is a short summary of how it works for those who don’t yet know what it is…

Thirty years or so ago, I discovered the phenomenon of out-of-body experience and consequently the capacity of the consciousness to travel outside of the physical body. I will not get into the details of what is commonly known as “astral journeys”, this would take too long… Maybe it could be the subject of another interview.

However, I mention the fact because it is in this state of exteriorization of the soul outside of my physical body that I can connect to what is called the Memory of Time. This Memory is accessible on a sort of wave length or vibratory frequency. Everything experienced or felt by a consciousness is systematically recorded in it. One could say that the “Memory of Time” is analogue to an incredible and gigantic natural “hard disk” on which is stored every single event happening in a life.

When a soul – or a consciousness, if you prefer – discovers through self-improvement its capacity to connect itself to this wave length, it is then able to penetrate the Akashic Records and read the film of the past.

Personally, I discovered this working method completely unintentionally, thirty years ago.

One of the consequences of this fundamental experience has been for me to accept the reality of reincarnation. I then understood clearly that I had once lived in the midst of an Essenian community at the time of Christ. This is how I came to investigate intensely a certain period of the past and bring back some extremely precise notions.

Today, I can say that I lived among the Essenes two thousand years ago and that the memories I can access on a regular basis are a continual source of information concerning this period. I am therefore writing and testifying out of my own experience, and this is why there are a number of issues concerning the person and time of Jesus on which I differ with the Christian church. It is clear to me that Jesus was of Essenian origin and the heir of a very old tradition.

With this in mind, I am increasingly aware of the strong distortion that exists between the dogma laid down by the vast majority of theologians and historians and what really happened in Palestine two millennia ago…

P.A.: You have written some thirty books to date…  Have most of them been inspired by the Essenes or only some of them? 

D.M.: Only a few… One thing is sure, my work is not restricted to researching traces of the Essenes and the true face of Christ in Time… However, the sensitivity which this quest awoke in me has an undeniable influence on all of my work. This is unavoidable. You cannot remain unmoved by such an intensive experience and move on to another topic of reflection and testimony, just because this one has already been “explored”…  No, I don’t think that the evangelical times, the person of Master Jesus and the contribution of the Essenian tradition to our world have yet been explored thoroughly enough. I doubt this can ever be the case. With my outlook on the origin of our present era and of Christianity, I am just trying to meet the need for hope in a time when we seem to be losing all our values. A true ideal of life and hope is what most of us lack today.

P.A.: Can you tell us about the way of life of the Essenes of the villages and explain in which way they differed from the others? 

DM: The Essenes of the village communities were very different from the Qumrân Essenes, even if they also led a rigorous life governed by strict rules. On the whole, they led a life in accordance with the Jewish tradition of their time, but at the same time, they lived marginally because they were more open-minded and flexible due to their constant connection with the forces of Nature.

We know that Judaism is a religion characterized by a number of rather rigid principles requiring the observance of many laws. All this was respected in the Essenian villages, but the inhabitants felt totally apart inasmuch as they used to speak much more freely of a number of subjects. They had far less taboos between them than the rest of the Jewish people who tried to obey the law to the letter.

However, all this and the fact that Master Jesus grew up among them does not mean that the Essenes were all initiates as we understand it in the so-called spiritual circles. You know, they tend to be a little too idealized today. They are often described as some kind of absolute initiates in various books written about them.

P.A.: It was not so? 

D.M: There were of course some great initiates among them, real Masters of Wisdom, but, to the risk of disappointing a few, I would say that most Essenes were just people trying to put into practice a way of life based on purity of conscience and moral purity above all things, and where they learned to share and to give. Some of them used to learn what they called the “milky voice”, meaning the art of speaking softly and flowingly. But this does not necessarily mean they were perfect! You must understand that it was not enough to be an Essene to claim being a Master of Wisdom or an initiate.

Most of the Essenes from the villages were simple illiterate people who, like everyone else, could also express anger and frustration, etc. Of course, they were a fascinating community because they were much more open-minded than the average at the time, but, I say it again, they should not be idealized to the extreme.

P.A.: Can you tell us something of the other communities of that time? 

D.M.: First of all, let us clarify that the term “Essene” was not commonly used at the time. Most of the time, the Essenes were mistaken for Nazarites and Nazarenes, who were mystics known for their white robes, long hair and beard, and also for some rituals.

So when the Essenes came to a place, they were mostly taken for Nazarenes or Nazarites. As a matter of fact, they were extremely discreet. The main difference between them and the Nazarenes or Nazarites was their practice of healing therapies. They were very interested in plants and liniments and in what we call today “energetic therapies”. Maybe we can talk about this later. The Brotherhood as such was relatively unknown, but people knew that healers were trained in its midst.

At the same time, the Essenes were rather feared by the rest of their contemporaries, who were under the impression that they worked with what they called magic, meaning the energetic laws… and the general feeling was that their practices were not always very “clear”.

Of course, this wasn’t true, but let us say it increased their tendency to set themselves apart, excessively sometimes. Many among them undeniably felt that they belonged to an elite.

Despite all this, there was a kind of fluidity between the small Essenian communities and the rest of the people. There was a flow and it used to work well, but nevertheless… the Essenes were still considered different. People used to appreciate their healing skills and fear them a little at the same time.

P.A.: Because of their tendency to elitism? 

D.M.: Many among them obviously considered themselves an elite. People didn’t automatically see them as such, but they were puzzled and sometimes worried by their marginality and this set them apart from the others, with everything that it entails.

P.A.: Can we say despite all this that they were initiates for their time and their environment? 

D.M.: Well, we would have to define first what an initiate is…

P.A.: That was going to be my next question. 

D.M.: You can say that an initiate is a person on the path, on a conscious and voluntary quest for Wisdom. This Wisdom implies extensive knowledge of the energetic laws of our universe enabling the soul and the heart to flourish. This Wisdom also means a certain familiarity with the subtle anatomy of the human body and enables contact with non-earthly forms of life.

There were quite a lot of persons of this caliber in the Essenian community, but – I repeat – it is important not to generalize. They were still a minority among their minority.

Most of the time, the most gifted and mystical Essenes used to go to the Krmel monastery where they were subjected to an extremely exacting discipline in order to develop their psychic capacities and put them to the service of others.

Their goal was the expansion of consciousness. Those who had it were said to be bearers and transmitters of Knowledge. In this sense, it is quite clear that not all Essenes, in spite of their specificities, were to be considered initiates, far from it. They were usually called Brothers in white or Brothers with the milky voice.

P.A.: They say Jesus was one of them. You have also said so yourself… But were the apostles Essenes, too? What is your opinion?

D.M.: As a matter of fact, my opinion… is not an opinion! It is an experience. As far as I am concerned, I cannot say “I believe that…” or “I think that…”, because a belief has no great value in my eyes if it is not supported by experience. Although it may seem a bit presumptuous, I can confirm from my own experience that Jesus was indeed born into an Essenian family. He spent his early childhood with his family and then went to the Krmel monastery to be instructed. There, he received the complete basic teaching reserved to those who were considered Essenian initiates. Of course, the instruction he received was very special and adapted to the exceptional being that he was. You can say that within the walls of Krmel, the child Jesus learned to be the Master he was going to become before being fully inhabited by the Presence of Christ.

In this sense, he achieved the full realization of the Essenian ideal… Needless to say, the expansion of heart and consciousness which was manifest in him went way beyond that.

Personally, on the basis of my own memories through the Akashic Records, I cannot just speak of Jesus as the greatest Essenian Master. This would not do justice to the truth.

One can easily understand that he acquired a fully different dimension after being filled with the Spirit of Christ. At that moment, the basic principles of Essenism just exploded – if I may use this term – in him. They disintegrated entirely because they were far too restrictive. I think this is easy to understand…

Christ was not an Essene, he manifested himself in the body of an Essene, the body of Master Jesus; this is something else altogether.

As I was saying before, the Essenes had their limits. They were open-minded, but still not able to transcend some cultural aspects. Their main task has been preparing Jesus to be filled with the consciousness of Christ. They were best suited for this work involving the physical body and the soul.

However, after Master Jesus was filled with the Power of Christ, the truth is that he was not particularly well accepted by all of the Essenian community. Except for a few high authorities, the Essenes just saw in him a rabbi taking himself for someone much greater than he actually was. Why? Because in the messianic context of that time, Jesus, filled with Christ, through his word and his way of life, was the equivalent of a real revolution, not only for Judaism, but also for the Essenian communities and all of mankind.

They could not accept it, and neither could the rest of the people and especially the religious leaders. It disturbed everything! When the scriptures say –in Matthew’s Gospel, I believe – that Christ was forcibly driven away with stones and that people tried to throw him into a ravine, you have to understand that this happened in an Essenian village… So, this means that he was expelled “manu militari” by the “meek Essenes”. This example shows how much he had pushed the

boundaries of Essenism. The expansion of his heart and his unfathomable dimension could not be content with the sole observation of Essenian principles, however beautiful they may have been.

As much as Jesus the Master was an Essene, Christ was Christ, in other words universal. In the same way, it is clear that Buddha was not a Buddhist, he was Buddha, that’s all.

P.A.: Now what about the apostles?

D.M.: A large number of persons who read me and write to me are under the impression that Christ had necessarily… collected, chosen the apostles – or rather his disciples – out of the Essenian community. That’s not at all how it happened! There were of course a few Essenes around him, among them Simon, the person I incarnated two thousand years ago and whose life I have outlined in my book “The Way of the Essenes”; but they were a minority.

John the Baptist, as a cousin of Jesus, was from the same Essenian community as he was, but he cannot be counted among the disciples. Most of the official and non-official apostles were not Essenian at all. They were common folk. It is easy to understand why… The Essenes were too marginalized to be close to the people and credible in their eyes. Inasmuch as Master Jesus, filled with the Spirit of Christ, wanted to reach every one, it was logical that he should not choose his disciples among the members of a marginalized community.

When we read the Gospel or listen to priests, we may get the impression that Jesus chose specific persons from the crowd, saying something like “Come to me, you shall be my disciple…” Maybe I am oversimplifying, but in a way, this is what people tend to believe. Well, there may have been a few persons he specifically picked out, but most of all, there were men and women who spontaneously came to him and gathered around him because they had been attracted by the speech and radiance of the Master… but that did not make them Essenes!  Finally, one should also realize that the number of disciples was constantly changing.

The official history of Christianity has set their number at twelve but this figure has a purely symbolic value. At the time, the disciples never knew that they were going to be reduced to “twelve apostles”. There were several circles of disciples and in each one of them, there have been disciples who abandoned their quest. Some of them came back after a while. Actually, it was comparable to the situation today around a particularly radiant person. Friends come and go, disciples came and went.

All this was very fluctuating and extremely lively, but, to come back to the question, one cannot say that the Essenes had infiltrated the group of the followers of Christ; not at all!

P.A.: But, by the way, what happened to the Essenes after Christ’s passing away? 

D.M.: From the historical point of view… not much! They died out rapidly. After all, the movement counted only few men and women. It was a small community, maybe one to one and a half thousand persons in the whole country, split up into very small villages and monasteries which did not count that many souls either.

You know that the Roman Empire had spread across the whole of Palestine two thousand years ago. There had been extremely violent confrontations and the Essenes had finally made common cause with the Zealots. The latter were the Resistance fighters of that time against the Roman army. In the year 66 A.D., the Essenes, fully caught up in messianic fever, sought shelter at their side in the fortress of Masada, on an imposing rocky plateau facing the Dead Sea. There, they withstood together for days on end the siege of the Roman legion, but they ended up being slaughtered.

After the fall of Jerusalem in the year 70, nothing more was heard from the Essenes. At that time, they seem to have vanished into thin air. The community probably broke up entirely, just like the Zealot movement. As you can see, the Essenian Brotherhood has had a relatively short life in History, at least as a structured community.

P.A.: How many years are we speaking of? 

D.M.: About three to four hundred years. Not more than that.

P.A.: That’s not much! 

D.M.: Yes it’s true. However, their knowledge continued to circulate underground across the Middle East and in the West. It has inspired some initiatory schools that still exist today. I am thinking for instance of organizations related to the Rosicrucians.

There is an obvious connection, even if it does not stop there.

I would like to point out that a number of Essenes at heart, a number of persons of Essenian sensitivity were reincarnated among the Cathars. The mental attitude of the Cathars, some of their disciplines and their asceticism, too, strongly remind of the Essenes.

The most amazing is what happened at the end of Catharism… Everybody knows how the Cathar movement was crushed after the fall of Montségur. This fortress, besieged by the army of the King of France, sheltered a group of Cathars assisted by – and this is less known – a few Templars. All of them ended up being slaughtered or burned at the stake.

What had happened in Masada about one thousand two hundred years before? There was a fortress, too. The Essenes (future Cathars?) had sought shelter there and made common cause with the Zealots, who were men at arms just like the Templars later.  Both ended up in practically the same way: the Essenes and the Zealots chose to commit suicide rather than surrender to the Romans and the last survivors set themselves on fire while two or three furtively escaped at the back of the fortress, foreshadowing what was going to happen in Montségur.

Of course, the Cathars did not commit suicide, but their desperate resistance was equivalent to a programmed death. Though they did not set themselves on fire, they still perished by fire after their castle fell into the hands of the royal army. This is history repeating itself… This analogy has always fascinated me. Be that as it may, the Essenes were never heard of anymore after that, at least not as incarnated Brotherhood.

P.A.: Did they meditate? 

D.M.: Yes, they did. Meditation has always been practised in all great initiatory traditions of our world. Yet, they used to pray more than meditate, perhaps. Their prayer consisted in repeating meaningful sounds… what is actually called mantras in the Hindu and Buddhist tradition. The
Essenes had their own mantras. They also practised contemplation.

I have nothing particular to say about this here, but maybe this could be the subject of another book: the restitution, transcription of the meditation methods and Essenian prayers. See, this idea just popped into my head. After saying this, I am sure people are going to tell me “Do it, do it…” Well, I don’t know. If it can be of some use, I will get down to it.

So yes, the Essenes used to meditate. They used to spend a lot of time praying and meditating whether in the Krmel monastery, in Qumràn, or in the small villages. Meditation has never been considered – by those who really know its power – as a way of escaping from the world, but on the contrary as a way of being more alive to the world, of being more oneself in the world, and then of … becoming like an intermediary between the different expressions of life. Someone who meditates is a bridge between the Invisible and the Visible, between Eternity and the illusion of matter.

P.A.: The Essenes are said to be therapists, and you too, Daniel, have said so yourself. For that matter, there is much talk about Essenian therapies nowadays… What about it exactly? 

D.M.: Yes, the Essenes were indeed therapists. This is official… Strictly speaking, they had neither invented a healing method nor collected a variety of therapeutic data, but they had inherited it from the ancient Egyptians… I am speaking of the Egyptians at the time of Amenophis III and Amenophis IV, better known as Akhenaton. They had made it their mission to collect all therapeutic knowledge available at the time; data which had been circulating underground since remote times. Some say since Atlantis, but you could also say since Lemuria, in other words since the beginning of Time as we can humanly fathom. The Egyptians used to reign over the whole of the Mediterranean Basin. They are the ones who built the famous Krmel monastery I was speaking about before in the vicinity of what later became the city of Haifa. One can say that this monastery was known as a major embassy for Egyptian therapeutic and initiatory knowledge on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea. At that time, this land was not yet Palestine where the people of Israel settled down. It was a land under Egyptian domination.

This explains why the Essenes, as spiritual heirs of the Egyptian therapists, have carried on their work in this place. Moses has been the main transmitter of Egyptian knowledge to the Jewish people. After that, the Essenes, who were a very small minority in their midst, found themselves with a large amount of data of essentially therapeutic character. This is why at the time of Christ they were renowned for tending the sick.

They had also organized a real network of health centers, more or less underground or troglodytic, where they used to practise their therapies. In Palestine, they were called bethsaids. Health care was free of charge or based on exchange of services.

The Essenes were known for these care centers – often used as maternity centers for example – and for what I would call the “occult” knowledge of the subtle laws governing the human body. It is on the basis of this reality that the energetic approach of the human body and the corresponding techniques were transmitted to the West.

As far as I am concerned, I discovered all this by myself, not through the Akashic Records in the first place, but via channelings which began in the fall of 1984. My readings in the Akashic Records helped me bring additional details to this knowledge over the years. At that time, in a small village of Périgord, I began receiving and transmitting information on therapies coming from consciousness spheres not belonging to our planet. This information was given by non-terrestrial beings who had already in distant past communicated with the ancient people of our world, in particular with the Egyptians and the Essenes.

The Essenes were men and women who, psychically speaking, were easily in relation with the Invisible. Consequently, they used to receive frequent information and teachings from a non-terrestrial source of cosmic proportions – one could say directly connected to the Divine.

It so happened that in 1984 I was led to reconnect with my past Essenian and Egyptian lives and began receiving information on Essenian – or more exactly Egyptian-Essenian – therapies, two or three times a week in public in front of a small audience of thirty to fifty persons. I personally wrote down this information, it was also sometimes recorded on tape while being transmitted live in front of the public. I have worked in this way in France for about a dozen years with the persons attending the channelings. And so we started to disclose and practise a method of energetic healing based on the messages I was receiving, with all the details and information I had been provided with.

In the end, we had put together a corpus of knowledge to which I added other information provided to me or found in numerous readings of the Akashic Records…

This is how it all started… Today, we have an abundance of information. Of course, over time, other persons have started transmitting this information. They follow the basic method and teach it in their own way.

This is how the “Essenian therapies” have been reinitialized today. When they reappeared through my channelings, they were not yet specifically called “Essenian”; we spoke of universal energetic therapies. We finally called them Essenian by assimilation, because the Essenes were those who practised them best two millennia ago.

Today, I keep on receiving information to enlarge the corpus.

About twenty-five years ago, this research yielded an initiation book known by many: “Les robes de lumière”. A few years later, I wrote “Ainsi soignaient-ils”, and then “Ce qu’Ils m’ont dit”, which sets the information in its original context…

Perhaps there will be a second volume of “Ainsi soignaient-ils” one day… Anyway, this therapeutic tradition is really alive; it represents a universal heritage.

I don’t think anyone can claim authorship of this method, even if I am shocked to discover that some are thinking of patented appellation… Of course, an impulse was necessary for this tradition to reappear.  It has to be said, this was done through me, a few decades ago. This is the naked truth…

Beyond this historical aspect and the fact that this is a method with its own techniques, this approach requires above all things the opening of the heart and consciousness.

You know, I could write two, three or four hundred pages about this energetic healing method, and still that would not make therapists out of my readers. The most important thing with this kind of therapy is love, empathy and compassion for the other. This works in a triangle between the Divine, the patient and the therapist. This triangle activates the flow of a “Force of Consolation in body and soul”. We always return to the principle of Trinity…  Without this flow, without this wave of love flowing in a triangle, well… all techniques of the world are useless, no matter how beautiful, or if they originate in Atlantis, Egypt or Essenism – it always amounts to the same thing in the end. The impulse from the heart, the expansion of the heart are what counts.

In order to emphasize this point, I agreed two years ago to assist my wife Marie-Johanne Croteau in teaching these therapies, which she has also always known. Together, we have initiated in France a training course for a limited number of persons over a period of three years.

This did not come as a sudden idea, but was the result of countless requests I had been receiving. People were continually asking “Mr Meurois, when are you going to start a training course, etc.” For my part, I did not feel called to take up this type of work again, but my wife Marie-Johanne was aware of the urgency and importance of the task. She was undoubtedly right and we finally seriously considered doing it. We thought the time had probably come to take over the transmission of this tradition with the required sensitivity. Marie-Johanne was the one who structured our teaching method in the present training cycle in France. She is therefore the initiator and project manager of this training course.

Neither of us intends to establish a School as such, but let us say that we felt called to teach what we knew about these therapies, because there was obviously far too much information which had not yet been published. I had had this knowledge in me for a long time, but she also carried it in her own memory. You must know that Marie-Johanne, due to her own experience, is in very close connection to her own Essenian memory and the source memory of two thousand years ago. As you can see, it is no coincidence that we ended up finding each other…

In this way, the work goes on and is transmitted under her impulse… We should thank her for that. As I was saying a few moments ago, technique represents only a small part of the whole approach. Our work primarily consists in seeking what is called the Sacred Energy of Healing. It is the art of connecting to the sacred aspect of the human being. The most important is to find again and give the Essence of Life.

We do not train “technicians” who are going to master countless practices, however fascinating they may be. We are working towards awakening, as much as can be hoped for, of course.

So, this is what I can say today about the therapies. Whether they are called Essenian, Egyptian-Essenian, or of Essenian-Egyptian sensitivity, does not really matter. The terminology does not matter because this method is our common heritage and nobody can claim ownership of these therapies. There is just something beautiful and sacred to pass on, and the essence of it speaks for itself. This is what Marie-Johanne Croteau and I are trying to do. The “Essenism” of two thousand years ago had no other purpose either.

P.A.: According to you, is it possible today to live like the Essenes? Is there anything which can bring us closer to them?

D.M.: Theoretically, I would like to say yes… But practically, I do not really believe it can be possible, because two thousand years have gone by and our world is not the same at all. The Essenes used to live under a certain climate, in a wholesome nature and with very little psychic pollution. You know, today we are continuously being polluted by countless things. In our Western societies, we are constantly assaulted – I don’t think this is too strong a term – by a multitude of waves: We always carry our cell phone in our hand, don’t we? Our cell phone, which is also our miniature TV and radio set, isn’t it? It is also our portable computer, we have video games in it; in short, all of this is getting… tyrannical. We are trying to avoid at all costs being a single moment alone with ourselves!

Information flows in from everywhere, we have access to I don’t know how many TV channels. The fact is that we are stressed by an incredible mental and psychic pollution and the result is that we cannot be like we were thousands of years ago anymore. The times when human beings were simple, intuitive and spontaneous are long past.

Moreover, if you consider the particular case of the Essenes, you must understand that they used to eat much less than we do today. Their body was healthier than ours. In the Mediterranean Basin, people know that a certain type of climate is favorable to frugality. We also know that in the past millennia, the physical body was generally much more resistant than today and reacted more strongly to the subtle emanations of Nature.

Whether we want it or not, our body today is saturated with numerous chemical products, with substances which we absorb through the lungs or our food, even if we try to eat as naturally as possible. We should not lure ourselves about this…  Our products are not as healthy as they used to be. No need to insist on this, it is obvious.

Even if modern medicine has saved numerous lives and relieved sufferings, it is also responsible for considerably weakening our immune system… For this reason, we have to use today an infinitely greater armamentarium of energetic therapies to reach the same result as two thousand years ago. The human body is somehow armoured against everything, to its own detriment.

Our society has necessarily moved on and the goal is not to go back in time: “I am going to live like the Essenes… no TV, no car, no phone…” This is quite utopic. Of course, you can create a community and live comfortably with like-minded people and claim to be Essenes. This does not harm anybody, except for the fact that it might bring about a form of elitism which separates you from others. As long as we “esoterize” (forgive me for the term), we will not be able to reach the consciousness of most.

I believe that we must reconnect to the great loving Principle of Life, based on an open exchange, a communion with Nature which does not try to show off, a dialogue with the One which does not necessarily claim to come from some archangel or other.

The basis of Essenism was discreet. Why claim “We are going to be Essenes today”? There is something else to build…  The past is past, even if in absolute terms, Time is an illusion.

Today, we are living in another time and what we probably should do is adapt the best of the Essenian way of thinking, bring it up to date while keeping in mind that the Essenes of two thousand years ago did not live like the Egyptians at the time of Akhenaton, just as those did not live like at the time of Atlantis or Lemuria, etc… Each time period has its own characteristics and we should not dwell in nostalgia.

Let us take from the past what was good and constructive; let us inspire ourselves from it, but why should we recreate it and idealise what was just a phase? This doesn’t seem right to me and it does not fit with what I sense and comprehend of Christ’s thought. Of course, everyone can do as he pleases. Still, there is enough beauty asking to be created without always wanting to go back to the past.

You might say: “But you yourself are always looking at the past through the Akashic Records”. This is true… but not for the sake of the past. By bringing the roots to light, I am trying to extract the elements which can help us progress. Nostalgia is not part of my tools. I can understand the feeling, but it is a sign of flight. Of course, horrible things are happening today, but they were happening in the past too, so let us not idealise the past.

P.A.: You are planning a trip to Israel in April 2011. What can you say about it? What will be special on this journey? 

D.M.: I am not really planning it… Let us say instead that I was asked, together with Marie-Johanne, to accompany a group of persons in Israel in coming April, just like we did last spring in Egypt. It is the same organization, Oasis Voyages, who asked us to think about an itinerary; they will bring in their skills and we ours. This agency is very experienced and provides excellent logistic services. I am going to act as a guide in this context. Marie-Johanne will perform a number of Essenian rituals and I will share my knowledge, my memories on location across Judea, Samaria and Galilea… I will share my experience of the “Essenian time” in order to bring a better understanding of the role of the Essenes and the approach of Master Jesus.

I am going to offer the travellers a very different outlook from that of Christianity as a whole. My approach, our approach will be different. It will inevitably be a heretical outlook, the outlook of two persons with memories of evangelical times, even if this seems a bit pompous at first glance. We will all try to open our hearts for what is going to happen. It will not be a history lesson, but an invitation to refine one’s consciousness. Anyway, this is how we are going to try to live these moments together.

P.A.: To sum it up, what will be different between this journey and the one you made in Egypt? 

D.M.: Well, it will have the same ring of nonconformism to it as the previous journey in Egypt. We will surely digress from the catholic dogma and the doctrines of Christian churches during this visit to the Holy Land. We will cast a different light on some official sites.

Let me give you an example… Even if we, as witnesses from that time, do not necessarily agree with the location of Christ’s tomb as indicated today on the site of the Holy Sepulchre in the heart of Jerusalem, we will still go and visit it, because it nevertheless represents a Holy place, if only because it has been infused with extraordinary faith over the last two thousand years. But, to be true to our quest, we shall also go a bit further, to the place where Jesus was really buried, according to our memory.

Of course, this is only a detail, because it really does not matter whether the events took place here or there, five hundred meters away. What we are going to try and get in touch with on this site, is the essence of the teachings of Christ as He offered it to the people of that time.

Marie-Johanne and I will be there as witnesses… We are calling all those who do not raise any barriers in their hearts, minds or consciousness. That’s all… It is as simple as that, we are going towards joy and we already know that we will all feel the benefits of this journey, right there in the center of our chests!

P.A.: Thank you, Daniel. Finally, can you tell us about your next conference coming November 19 in Quebec, entitled “Life beyond life”? 

D.M.: Yes… It’s a bit off topic, but yes indeed, I am happy to give a conference on the subject of “Life beyond life” on November 19th in Quebec City. The conference will begin at 19:30, I believe, at the Plaza Hotel, Boulevard Laurier.

Why go into such a classic subject? A lot of things have been said and done around the subject of death… But in spite of the numerous books and conferences about the subject, many persons come to me with urgent and often anxious questions. They are always the same concerns, fears and fundamental existential or spiritual questions.

I realize that a lot of things have yet to be said on the subject of death, or a lot of things have been wrongly said or misunderstood. I would like to use everything I tried to explain in my last book “Il y a de nombreuses demeures” in the context of death, because if there is a lot of talk about care for the dying, about the instant of separation, about what happens – technically speaking – at the instant of death, people seldom talk – or talk very vaguely – of life after death, of what we will be doing there.

What are exactly the mansions of the soul? What are these worlds our soul visits, goes through in what we globally call the “Hereafter”? This is what I want to talk about… not just to inform people, but to defuse their fears and help them understand better the meaning of our lives on Earth.

It is a fact that we are generally afraid and anxious when we don’t understand, when we don’t know…  The answers are often extremely simple… So I will try to share my experience on this subject with new information, a different outlook… Above all, I would like to impart inner strength to the persons who need it…

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The real method and resurgence of the Egyptian-Essenian therapies by Daniel Meurois and Marie Johanne Croteau-Meurois.
This healing method is based on the knowledge of the Essenes and Egyptians and transmitted in the spirit of the holistic tradition by Marie-Johanne Croteau-Meurois and Daniel Meurois.

Q: The Egyptian-Essenian therapies have been transmitted by channeling…

Daniel Meurois: That’s right…

Q: Why this decision to revive them?

D.M: I believe that humans have a great need to connect themselves to the Sacred.  Generally speaking, we have collectively lost our connection to the Sacred due to the emergence of technology, of modern scientific medicine, which is interesting in some ways, but also deprives human beings of their subtle reality, their sacred reality.

From the moment our world started sinking deeper in a purely materialistic understanding of how the human body works, I think it was only natural that at some point a therapeutic approach should re-emerge by this subtle means.

The Egyptian-Essenian approach is actually one of many. There are of course other approaches of the energetic reality of the human body, but I believe that the Egyptian-Essenian approach is particularly interesting, because it stresses the importance of an approach from the heart. There are of course therapeutic techniques, but these are of secondary importance, even if they are extremely elaborated; they come second. All we learn in these therapies is primarily aimed at opening the heart as well as the eighth chakra. In my view, this is the reason why it was so important that they should reappear with force at this time.

As far as I am concerned, I have been receiving information on these therapies and the spirit behind them almost every week for exactly thirty-two years. I have now collected an important corpus of information and my wife Marie-Johanne Croteau-Meurois has also contributed to the resurgence of this method through her memories of ancient times.

 

For this reason, we are both currently working very actively at teaching these therapies, because I believe this meets a very strong need today. Yes, there are therapeutic techniques, even some extremely precise procedures, but they emphasize in the first place the bond between human and Divine, between the Sacred and what is traditionally called the profane.

 

Sacrée Planète

Egyptian-Essenian Therapies for the magazine “Sacrée Planète”

An interview with Marie Johanne Croteau-Meurois and Daniel Meurois for the magazine “Sacrée Planète”   The tradition of energetic healing known under the general label “Essenian therapies” was also known in ancient Egypt. Could it date even further back? Can you tell...
Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void

Daniel Meurois recounts the story of a great leap into the void…

The Day of the great turning point  Going beyond what we already know about the out-of-body experience that changed Daniel Meurois’ life in 1971, this is the chronicle of events that led him to the decision to devote himself solely to writing testimonies of his...
Who were the Essenes

Who were the Essenes?

Transcript of the interview of Daniel Meurois by Pierre Abraham  in “Conversation Papillon”, 9 September 2010.   Pierre Abraham: Daniel Meurois, people have been talking about the Essenes ever since the discovery of the first Dead Sea Scrolls; but who were the Essenes...

Essenian and Egyptian Therapies

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